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Old 11th November 2008, 19:16
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Re: KG51 losses on 23 August 1942.

Hi, Yogy

I am sure this happened, and I am sure we can find several more examples. My problem is really when it is written as you do: Leutnant this and that etc, because we can then never put this into the correct context, and the result is that these cases become urban legends and nothing more.

I would really like to have the unit of the Kommodore you mentioned, as I would like to check this against loss records, and see what they say.

And that pilots reported losses due to technical error rather than pilot error I am sure. Who wouldn't if they could. Thing is that we cannot know how widespread this was or could have been, but the fact is that we also have several examples of pilots doing something similar being prosecuted, and that only a higher level technical review freed them from the accusations.

What I think we must do here is to keep apples from bananas - the examples you mention here has nothing to do with the 'scheme' proposed by Franek where he state that there were a major 'hide the losses' operation going on in the Luftwaffe, resulting in the data we have being a long way from the complete picture.

But I think that this thread is really picking up, and we are getting real examples we can use and discuss. In my opinion we should try to gather these 'special' cases in a separate thread and try to 'solve' them to the best of our ability with information from all sides

Regards,
Andreas B
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