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Old 12th January 2009, 01:45
Franek Grabowski Franek Grabowski is offline
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Re: Questions re Polikarpov-fighters.

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Originally Posted by Kari Lumppio View Post
This thread is on the borderline to bother with an answer.
Indeed, it is hard to discuss with people, who believe stone is a perfect material for aircraft.
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About the steel 30ХГСА. I was not familiar with the Soviet/Russian material codes but my own searches and the given links helped.
Check German 14 342, this should be similar.
Yes, it is corroding, rather hard to weld and prone to breaks (sorry, I am lacking technical vocabulary), so there are some penalties. HGSA stands for chromium, manganese, silicone, with reduced phosphorus and sulphur. The number shows percentage of carbon. It is offered in a wide range of products, including seamless drawn tubes. Obviously it affects resistance, and figures given seem totally bogus for me (unless I cannot convert them to MPa).
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Originally Posted by Arsenal VG-33 View Post
And what are you thinking of? That i gave you break limits (Re) for Delta D or Steel and elastic (Rm) one for Dural.
Any source for those figures?
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Don't worry for me, be useful just one time, sent us your values.
http://www.spawalnictwo.com.pl/index...umer_watku=586
Do you see any difference?
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Can you show me a wooden Beauf, Invader or Ju-88, or a metallic Mosquito?
Do you have any idea about estimating weight of aircraft? I see you do not.
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So what?
So nothing, perfectly nothing.
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What is your problem?
I do not like BS, and you spread BS as hell. Like many other anonymous users, you try to lower the level of discussions to the dangerous bottom. That is all.
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Can you reapeat the question please?
You got the answer.
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