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Old 29th April 2009, 17:43
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Re: May 14th 1940 and few little things

Hello!

Firstly Thank you Iain, Paul, Peter and Franck

Franck, just a little question, I liked your link, but why you give WT as code for the 142 Sqn. It is not QT?


In your post 61Arnaud, you have written in French this:
- un Henschel 126 de la 2.(H)/23, Feldwebel Pörr (lire Dörr), posé à Chémery à 13.00. »

I translate which is in bold: Feldwebel Pörr (read Dörr). How do you know is Dörr? Incredible! It is really Pörr! Maybe you made a mistake with the famous Fighter pilot of JG 5 Franz Dörr (RK, 132 Victories) !?!? Maybe for some gentlemen this remark can be insignificant, but not for me, because it seems to say by this affirmation, that Mr Gillet knows better than me, the fact…

I would like to translate only one line of the first book of Mr Gillet about the French victories during the Battle of France. There is at the end of this 1st opus, a recapitulation in form of table in 2 columns between French claims and German losses

Down page 132, it is written, always for the 14th may 1940
1st column: 1 II/1 10.30 am Cne Coiral, Lt maurin, Sgt Largeau 1 Hs126, in flames at Vrignes-aux-Bois, confirmed by Z.O.A.N
2nd Column: no Hs126 damaged or shot down reporting in this sector. Approx 3.15 pm, a Fairey Battle, Sqn 12 (L4950) shot down at Vrignes-aux-Bois.

When you read the 2 columns, as reader, it is possible to make a little confusion and to say here too another battle shot down for Hs 126 by 3 French Pilots of GC II/1 in their Bloch 152. Because Arnaud Gillet, affirms no Hs 126 damaged or shot down in this sector.

What said the German document?
14.5. Vrigne au boise; 1 Hs 126B der 1. (H)/14 Pz, die für die 2.Panzerdivision auf­klärte; bei Vrigne au bois durch frz. Jäger schwer beschädigt, die Crew sprang über eigenen Gebiet unverletzt mit den Fallschirmen ab.
Do you think that some French pilots are Liars?
Why so much affirmation in your text?
You must know Arnaud Gillet, it is always difficult to match documents and you must have patience, reflexion, and if it is not sure, problematic, you can add some words as maybe, probably, it is possible, sorry my English is poor to translate what I think in French.

Since the beginning of this thread, I ask you and not only me, to give or as you like to share with us your sources, that I repeat you didn't put in your books.
But it is easy for you to forget to give sources. Maybe you don't have sources? , Maybe it is only your imagination ? or you are thoroughly convinced that it happened like that? it is maybe only feeling? Maybe you thought that you had in hand a scoop? who Know?

Sorry, but I try my best to understand, and I repeat, all that, is without angryness and always with respect for your person. For me, the most important is the Memory of all brave young men; French, German & British, These unknown heroes deserve to be rewarded for what they done. And for many of them they gave their life... When you understand the past, you can see the future clearly...

Thank you.
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