20th May 2009, 14:31
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Re: JG400
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Originally Posted by Laurent Rizzotti
On the other hand shooting down a damaged straggler was not considered as a full victory, and shoud be claimes as a "B-17 e.V.", e.V. being the initials of "final destruction" in German.
By the way, I dind't remember right now the full name of HSS, Heraus something...
confirmed yes, C.2027/IIAnerk: Nr. : this means confirmed by the Luftwaffe victory confirmation system
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e.V. = endgültige Vernichtung (literally something like "ultimate annihilation")
HSS = Herausschuss = shooting out [from the group]
Better German speakers will correct me but I don't think "anerkannt" strictly means "confirmed" (that would be "bestätigt") but rather "acknowledged" or "recognised." This is a small point, I admit but maybe it matters to historians. The Claims Commission was saying that the claim met their criteria and could be added to the pilot's score (and points toward a medal). Using the word "confirmed" makes it sound like there definitely was a kill whereas we - with access to both sides' sources - know there quite often wasn't one. |