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Old 3rd April 2017, 13:54
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Re: Top ace of the calendar year

Hi Guys

Rattling on about Emil Lang. I have viewed many flubuch of late, and have been surprised about just how small a group they flew in, usually a Rotte or Schwarm. This being the case, it is likely that Lang would be flying in such a small group, therefore it wouldn't require the whole Staffel to be "overclaiming".

Other claimers of the day were, with Lang:-

Reinhold Hoffmann Il-2 at 0915 hrs 300 metres E Glebowka
Manfred Peschke Il-2 at 0916 hrs 250 metres NE Glebowka
Emil Lang Il-2 at 0931 hrs 1000 metres NE Ljutesh
Emil Lang Il-2 at 0932 hrs 200 metres NNE Ljutesh
Emil Lang Il-2 at 0933 hrs 100 metres NE Kasarowitschi
Emil Lang Jak-7 at 0935 hrs 50 metres NE Kasarpwitschi
Emil Lang Il-2 at 0936 hrs 100 metres NW Glebowka
Emil Lang Jak-7 at 0940 hrs 100 metres ENE Glebowka
Emil Lang Jak-7 at 0942 hrs 50 metres ENE Glebowka


Reinhold Hoffmann Jak-7 at 1109 hrs 2500 metres S Wzschgorod
Reinhold Hoffmann Jak-9 at 1113 hrs 3000 metres E Glebowka


Reinhold Hoffmann Il-2 at 1225 hrs 1000 metres
Alfred Groß Jak-7 at 1226 hrs 1000 metres
Reinhold Hoffmann Il-2 at 1228 hrs 1000 metres
Alfred Groß Jak-9 at 1231 hrs 20 metres
Reinhold Hoffmann Jak-9 at 1240 hrs 700 metes
Emil Lang Lavochkin-5 at 1300 hrs 2500 metres ENE Llistawizd


Emil Lang Il-2 at 1415 hrs 1000 metres E Moschtschum
Emil Lang Il-2 at 1416 hrs 800 metres N Moschtschum
Emil Lang Lavochkin-5 at 1420 hrs 800 metres NW Moschtschum
Emil Lang Lavochkin-5 at 1422 hrs 1000 metres N Kiew
Emil Lang Il-2 at 1423 hrs 600 metres W Walki
Reinhold Hoffmann Jak-9 at 1438 hrs 2000 metres W Walki
Emil Lang Jak-9 at 1445 hrs 1500 metres E Gostumel
Friedrich Zander Il-2 at 1445 hrs 1200 metres W Wzschgorod
Emil Lang Jak-9 at 1446 hrs 1500 metres W Wzschgorod
Emil Lang Il-2 at 1448 hrs 1000 metres E Gostumel
Emil Lang Il-2 at 1449 hrs 1200 metres N Mostrschtsche
Reinhold Hoffmann Jak-9 at 1449 hrs 2500 metres SE Ljutesh

I have slit them into four groups, four sorties based on the time duration they had, it looks like they were flying together, but not necessarily so.

Someone within our little club should have Russian losses/crash-sites who can help. I am assuming all crash-sites are feasible with the given information.

I looked at the internet profile on Lang, it appears to have added three "unknown" claims to boost his total to 173, 173 could be a myth duplicated over the decades until it's "cast in stone" like Rudorffer flying 1000 combat missions and baling-out so many times....there is no evidence to prove these "facts", actually his flugbuch proves he flew half this number of combats. Like the Hartmann claiming Mustangs it become "fact" until proven false.

Also the fourth and sixth Staffel of JG 54 were not claiming like the fifth, are we to believe that coincidently the fifth Staffel just had better pilots, like 7./JG 52 and especially like 9./JG 52.

Kind Regards

Johannes
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