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Old 21st May 2016, 17:39
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Re: Establish a Hartmann 'Working Group'

Bronc,

In February, 2014 in the topic called: "German overclaims in the East. Hartmann and others...", #125, 133, 139, 140, etc. we have already gone through many of these details. Huge difference in reliability between Hartmann, Lipfert and others. And I am not the only one who says this, but even some Russian researchers as well. But from the distance of over 70 years, I do not know any better method to clarify things other than comparing written records of German and Russian Archives. The Russian records are excellent, listing their planes in service quarterly, as well as their losses by AC S/N, engine S/N, etc... in multiple levels of records.

Again, I do not say that Hartmann didn't encounter his reported opponents, I just say that most of his credited 'victories' finally returned to their base and after repair went back to service = weren't real victories.
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Gabor
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