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Old 21st May 2015, 18:29
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Re: Air combats of Chinese Civil War 1945-1949?

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Originally Posted by mars View Post
I have no idea who these "two Communist Chinese senior commander" are, and since, unlike Soviet Military records, PLAF never release its record to public, so we can not know the real losses PLAF suffered during the 1958 Quemoy / Taiwan Strait Crisis. But there are a few books that pulished in the past decades relate to this crisis, in which the authors claims his source are come from official archives, they claims between July 29 to Oct 25, PLAF lost 7 Migs: 6 of them were shot down in the air fight and 1 was shot down by own Flak, at least 5 pilots were KIA. Other 4 Migs suffered repairable damages in the air combat. On the other hands, PLAF claimed 18 kills in the air combat
The two PLA senior officers would be the Theater Commander Ye, Fei (葉飛/叶飞 born Sixto Mercado Tiongco) and Wu, Fa Xian (吳法憲 / 吴法宪) a senior PLAAF commander. Both published memoirs. Both mention ChiCom losses of 20+ during the Quemoy Crisis of 1958.

叶飞回忆录 (Memoirs of Ye, Fei)
publ. 1988 PLA Publishing (解放军出版社),Beijing
ISBN 7-5065-0292-5

p653 「... 这场争夺制空权的空战持续了半个多月,甚为激烈。空战后期,国民党空军使用了响尾蛇空对空导弹。空战中,我 们有两架飞机不明不白地被打落了,开始我们不知 道怎么被击落的,后来才弄清是新式武器干的。国民党空军损失五十多架,大约占它总数的三分之一 。我们损失二十多架。...」

歲月艱辛, 吳法憲回憶錄 (Arduous Times: Memoirs of Wu, Fa Xian)
publ. 2006 North Star Publishing, Hong Kong
ISBN 962-86438-2-7

p505

「... 作為金門炮戰的序幕,爭奪福建前線制空權的激烈空戰,持續了半個多月。這次空戰,國民黨空軍損失了五十多架 飛機,我們則損失了二十多架。...」

The "7 MiG's" figure is consistently what the publications for external consumption quotes nowadays (big improvement from "2 MiG's" years ago).

The "20+ aircraft" figure is remarkably consistent for the two senior commanders to quote in their respective memoirs. This is almost certainly the figure both had access to - in PLA "internal documents".
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