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Old 24th August 2008, 22:41
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Re: Was Fw. Werner Stapel JG52 an ace?

O.K. Jim,

I’ve checked both Tony Woods lists and yours for the following dates. Unfortunately, there does not seem to be any info for JG52 on these dates. Nor does the aircraft seem to be a transfer from another unit as aces making multiple claims on the correct dates, do not correspond for all dates. Any more pointers or suggestions?

Rob Romero

24 Jun 40 –Westfront Claim
24-6-1940 0:00:00,"Fw.",,"Ertel","6.","JG 77","Blenheim","W. Stavanger","14.00"," 2"," 64","yes","OKL",,"Prien/Bock",
24.06.40 Fw. Ertel: 2 6./JG 77 Blenheim £ westl. Stavanger 14.00 OKL+JFV d.Dt.Lw. 3 - 64
26 Jun 41 –East front Claim
26.06.41 Maj. Günther Lützow Stab/JG 3 SB-3 £ - 13.20 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.80
26.06.41 Ofw. Otto Schulz 4./JG 27 SB-3 £ - 09.25 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.37
26.06.41 Ltn. Arthur Schacht 4./JG 27 SB-3 £ - 09.50 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.38
26.06.41 Ofw. Otto Schulz 4./JG 27 SB-3 £ - 14.40 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.39
26.06.41 Uffz. Horst Reuter 5./JG 27 Tief. Flzg. £ - 13.56 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.33
26.06.41 Oblt. Hermann Kohl 9./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 10.55 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.86
26.06.41 Oblt. Karl-Heinz Schnell 9./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 10.55 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.87
26.06.41 Oblt. Karl-Heinz Schnell 9./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 15.50 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.88
26.06.41 Ofw. Edmund Wagner 9./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 15.50 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.35
26.06.41 Ofw. Edmund Wagner 9./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 15.50 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.36
26.06.41 Fw. Heinz Klöpper 11./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 10.48 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.23
26.06.41 Uffz. Helmut Jurgens 11./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 10.49 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.24
26.06.41 Fw. Erwin Janke 11./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 11.03 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.25
26.06.41 Oblt. Franz Hahn 11./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 11.04 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.26
26.06.41 Fw. Karl-Heinz Kempf 7./JG 54 SB-2 £ - 19.25 Film C. 2036/II Nr.69 281/42
26.06.41 Ltn. Peter von Maleport 7./JG 54 SB-2 £ - 19.26 Film C. 2036/II Nr.72 168/42
26.06.41 Fw. Karl-Heinz Kempf 7./JG 54 SB-2 £ - 19.26 Film C. 2036/II Nr.69 281/42
26.06.41 Uffz. Walter Saynisch 7./JG 54 SB-2 £ - 19.26 Film C. 2036/II Nr.72 168/42
26.06.41 Fw. Karl-Heinz Kempf 7./JG 54 SB-2 £ - 19.27 Film C. 2036/II Nr.69 281/42
26.06.41 Uffz. Walter Saynisch 7./JG 54 SB-2 £ - 19.27 Film C. 2036/II Nr.72 168/42
26.06.41 Ltn. Max-Hellmuth Ostermann 7./JG 54 DB-3 £ - 18.32 Film C. 2036/II Nr.85 198/42
26.06.41 Ltn. Peter von Maleport 7./JG 54 SB-2 £ - 19.28 Film C. 2036/II Nr.72 168/42
26.06.41 Fw. Karl-Heinz Kempf 7./JG 54 SB-2 £ - 19.30 Film C. 2036/II Nr.69 281/42
26.06.41 Hptm. Herbert Ihlefeld Stab I./JG 77 I-16 £ - 09.10 Film C. 2031/I Anerk: Nr. -
26.06.41 Hptm. Herbert Ihlefeld Stab I./JG 77 SB-2 £ - 09.20 Film C. 2031/I Anerk: Nr. -
8 Jul 41 –Two East front Claims
8-7-1941 0:00:00,"Oblt.","Erhard","Braune","7.","JG 27","SB-2","NW Gorodok","18.33"," 6"," 174","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 17","Prien/Bock",
8-7-1941 0:00:00,"Oblt.","Erbo Graf von","Kageneck","9.","JG 27","SB-2","W. Witebsk","06.08"," 22"," 172","yes","C. 2036/II","Nr.68 738/41","Prien/Bock",
8-7-1941 0:00:00,"Fw.","Otto","Schultz","4.","JG 51","SB-2","S. Walki","19.20"," 6"," 305","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 81","Prien/Bock",
8-7-1941 0:00:00,"Uffz.","Heinrich","Zimmermann","9.","JG 51","DB-3","-","19.15"," 1st"," 323","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 100","Prien/Bock",
8-7-1941 0:00:00,"Fw.","Herbert","Friebel","12.","JG 51","SB-2","-","11.40"," 6"," 253","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 60","Prien/Bock",
08.07.41 Oblt. Erhard Braune 7./JG 27 SB-2 £ - 18.33 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.17
08.07.41 Oblt. Erbo Graf von Kageneck 9./JG 27 SB-2 £ - 06.08 Film C. 2036/II Nr.68 738/41
08.07.41 Fw. Otto Schultz 4./JG 51 SB-2 £ - 19.20 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.81
08.07.41 Uffz. Heinrich Zimmermann 9./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 19.15 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.100
08.07.41 Fw. Herbert Friebel 12./JG 51 SB-2 £ - 11.40 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.60
11 Aug 41 –East front Claim
11-8-1941 0:00:00,"Ofw.","Franz","Blazytko","9.","JG 27","I-16 Rata","W. Dubnja","06.46"," 21"," 298","yes","C. 2036/II","Nr.86 474/42","Prien/Bock",
11-8-1941 0:00:00,"Oblt.","Horst","Geyer","Stab II.","JG 51","I-61","-","14.48"," 11"," 403","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 22","Prien/Bock",
11-8-1941 0:00:00,"Oblt.","Erich","Hohagen","4.","JG 51","I-61","-","14.46"," 26"," 402","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 111","Prien/Bock",
11-8-1941 0:00:00,"Fw.","Wilhelm","Mink","5.","JG 51","I-18","-","07.05"," 12"," 401","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 117","Prien/Bock",
11-8-1941 0:00:00,"Ofw.","Edmund","Wagner","9.","JG 51","I-16 Rata","-","11.00"," 18"," 437","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 39","Prien/Bock",
11-8-1941 0:00:00,"Ofw.","Edmund","Wagner","9.","JG 51","I-15","-","11.20"," 19"," 438","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 40","Prien/Bock",
11.08.41 Ofw. Franz Blazytko 9./JG 27 I-16 £ - 06.46 Film C. 2036/II Nr.86 474/42
11.08.41 Oblt. Horst Geyer Stab II./JG 51 I-61 £ - 14.48 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.22
11.08.41 Oblt. Erich Hohagen 4./JG 51 I-61 £ - 14.46 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.111
11.08.41 Fw. Wilhelm Mink 5./JG 51 I-61 £ - 07.05 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.117
11.08.41 Ofw. Edmund Wagner 9./JG 51 I-16 £ - 11.00 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.39
11.08.41 Ofw. Edmund Wagner 9./JG 51 I-15 £ - 11.20 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.40
18 Aug 41 –East front Claim
18-8-1941 0:00:00,"Oblt.","Erich","Hohagen","Stab II.","JG 51","I-61","-","08.05"," 27"," 407","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 24","Prien/Bock",
18-8-1941 0:00:00,"Oblt.","Hans","Mihlan","Stab II.","JG 51","Pe-2","-","08.10"," 6"," 408","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 25","Prien/Bock",
18-8-1941 0:00:00,"Uffz.","Otto","Kittel","2.","JG 54","I-18","-","06.00"," 4"," 197","yes","C. 2036/II","Nr.87 077/42","Prien/Bock",
18-8-1941 0:00:00,"Oblt.","Siegfried Graf von","Matuschka","2.","JG 54","I-18","-","05.55"," 9"," 196","yes","C. 2036/II","Nr.87 077/42","Prien/Bock",
18-8-1941 0:00:00,"Ltn.","Max-Hellmuth","Ostermann","7.","JG 54","I-16 Rata","-","05.25"," 26"," 308","yes","C. 2031/I","Nr.87 080/42","Prien/Bock",
18-8-1941 0:00:00,"Ltn.","Max-Hellmuth","Ostermann","7.","JG 54","I-16 Rata","-","11.02"," 27"," 309","yes","C. 2031/I","Nr.87 080/42","Prien/Bock",
18-8-1941 0:00:00,"Oblt.","Karl-Gottfried","Nordmann","Stab IV.","JG 51","I-15","N. Baltutino","17.15"," 41"," 453","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 32","Prien/Bock",
18.08.41 Oblt. Erich Hohagen Stab II./JG 51 I-61 £ - 08.05 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.24
18.08.41 Oblt. Heinz Mihlan Stab II./JG 51 Pe-2 £ - 08.10 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.25
18.08.41 Uffz. Otto Kittel 2./JG 54 I-18 £ - 06.00 Film C. 2036/II Nr.87 077/42
18.08.41 Oblt. Siegfried Graf von Matuschka 2./JG 54 I-18 £ - 05.55 Film C. 2036/II Nr.87 077/42
18.08.41 Ltn. Max-Hellmuth Ostermann 7./JG 54 I-16 £ - 05.25 Film C. 2031/I Nr.87 080
18.08.41 Ltn. Max-Hellmuth Ostermann 7./JG 54 I-16 £ - 11.02 Film C. 2031/I Nr.87 080
18.08.41 Oblt. Karlfried Nordmann Stab IV./JG 51 I-15 £ - 17.15 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.32
31 Aug 41 –Two East front Claims?
31-8-1941 0:00:00,"Oblt.","Heinrich","Krafft","3.","JG 51","SB-3","-","10.25"," 17"," 405","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 60","Prien/Bock",
31-8-1941 0:00:00,"Fw.","Theodor","Stebner","3.","JG 51","SB-3","-","10.25"," 4"," 406","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 61","Prien/Bock",
31-8-1941 0:00:00,"Uffz.","Wilhelm","Theimann","3.","JG 51","SB-3","-","10.30"," 7"," 407","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 62","Prien/Bock",
31-8-1941 0:00:00,"Oblt.","Heinrich","Krafft","3.","JG 51","SB-3","-","10.31"," 18"," 408","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 63","Prien/Bock",
31-8-1941 0:00:00,"Fw.","Theodor","Stebner","3.","JG 51","SB-3","-","10.35"," 5"," 409","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 64","Prien/Bock",
31-8-1941 0:00:00,"Oblt.","Heinrich","Krafft","3.","JG 51","SB-3","-","10.36"," 19"," 410","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 65","Prien/Bock",
31-8-1941 0:00:00,"Uffz.","Egon","Große","3.","JG 51","Pe-2","-","16.05"," 5"," 411","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 66","Prien/Bock","DB-3?"
31-8-1941 0:00:00,"Oblt.","Horst","Geyer","Stab II.","JG 51","I-61","-","10.35"," 14"," 431","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 28","Prien/Bock",
31-8-1941 0:00:00,"Ofw.","Adolf","Borchers","10.","JG 51","I-18","-","17.30","-","-",,"C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 62",,4 Sep 41
31.08.41 Uffz. Wilhelm Theimann 3./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 10.24 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.59
31.08.41 Oblt. Heinz Krafft 3./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 10.25 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.60
31.08.41 Fw. Theodor Stebner 3./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 10.25 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.61
31.08.41 Uffz. Wilhelm Theimann 3./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 10.30 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.62
31.08.41 Oblt. Heinz Krafft 3./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 10.31 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.63
31.08.41 Fw. Theodor Stebner 3./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 10.35 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.64
31.08.41 Oblt. Heinz Krafft 3./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 10.36 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.65
31.08.41 Uffz. Erich Große 3./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 16.05 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.66
31.08.41 Oblt. Horst Geyer Stab II./JG 51 I-61 £ - 10.35 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.28
31.08.41 Ofw. Adolf Borchers 10./JG 51 I-18 £ - 17.30 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.62
7 Sep 41 –Two East front Claims
08.07.41 Oblt. Erhard Braune 7./JG 27 SB-2 £ - 18.33 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.17
08.07.41 Oblt. Erbo Graf von Kageneck 9./JG 27 SB-2 £ - 06.08 Film C. 2036/II Nr.68 738/41
08.07.41 Fw. Otto Schultz 4./JG 51 SB-2 £ - 19.20 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.81
08.07.41 Uffz. Heinrich Zimmermann 9./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 19.15 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.100
08.07.41 Fw. Herbert Friebel 12./JG 51 SB-2 £ - 11.40 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.60
07.09.41 Ofw. Franz Blazytko 9./JG 27 Il-2 £ - 18.35 Film C. 2036/II Nr.87 389/42
07.09.41 Ltn. Rudolf Weinfurtner 9./JG 27 I-16 £ - 18.35 Film C. 2036/II Nr.87 389/42
07.09.41 Ltn. Max-Hellmuth Ostermann 7./JG 54 I-18 £ - 14.25 Film C. 2031/I Nr.88 736/42
07.09.41 Ltn. Max-Hellmuth Ostermann 7./JG 54 I-18 £ - 14.30 Film C. 2031/I Nr.90 281/42
07.09.41 Fw. Robert Rohr 1. (Erg)/JG 54 I-153 £ - 09.03 Film C. 2031/I Nr.90 438/42
07.09.41 Ltn. Hans Strelow 5./JG 51 SB-2 £ - 17.17 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.133
07.09.41 Fw. Wilhelm Mink 5./JG 51 SB-2 £ - 06.05 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.132
07.09.41 Oblt. Hartmann Grasser 5./JG 51 SB-3 £ - 17.20 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.134
07.09.41 Oblt. Karl-Heinz Schnell 9./JG 51 Pe-2 £ - 12.25 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.160
07.09.41 Oblt. Karl-Heinz Schnell 9./JG 51 I-61 £ - 17.40 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.161
07.09.41 Ofw. Franz Barten 11./JG 51 SB-2 £ - 17.12 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.83
13 Sep 41 –East front Claim
13-9-1941 0:00:00,"Fw.","Otto","Tange","5.","JG 51","DB-3","15km E. Konotop","10.03"," 23"," 469","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 52","Prien/Bock",
13-9-1941 0:00:00,"Fw.","Otto","Tange","5.","JG 51","DB-3","20km E. Konotop","10.07"," 24"," 470","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 53","Prien/Bock",
13-9-1941 0:00:00,"Uffz.","Kurt","Knappe","5.","JG 51","DB-3","E. Konotop","10.10"," 5"," 471","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 137","Prien/Bock",
13-9-1941 0:00:00,"Fw.","Otto","Tange","5.","JG 51","DB-3","27km E. Konotop","10.12"," 25"," 472","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 54","Prien/Bock",
13-9-1941 0:00:00,"Ltn.","Hans","Strelow","5.","JG 51","DB-3","-","13.08"," 10"," 473","yes","C. 2036/II","Anerk: Nr. 138","Prien/Bock",
13.09.41 Fw. Otto Tange 5./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 10.03 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.52
13.09.41 Fw. Otto Tange 5./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 10.07 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.53
13.09.41 Uffz. Kurt Knappe 5./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 10.10 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.137
13.09.41 Fw. Otto Tange 5./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 10.12 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.54
13.09.41 Ltn. Hans Strelow 5./JG 51 DB-3 £ - 13.08 Film C. 2036/II Anerk: Nr.138
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