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Re: Kg51 "edelweiss" the complete history of kg 51 in world war ii".

Claims I have for KG 51 from various sources, starting with Tony Woods transcribed claims from German claims documents -

Date, Rank, Fname, Lname, Gruppe, Staffel, JG, Claimed, Location, Time, ClaimNo, Unit_Cl, RLM, Prim_Source, Conf_No, Sec_Source, Notes
24-May-40, , , n.n., III., 8., KG 51, franz.Jäger, Raum Issoudun, 09.50±, ., -, yes, Gillet, , , A/C Estan from Avord airfield defense patrol
19-Aug-40, Ltn.Dr., , Stahl, I., 1., KG 51, Spitfire, 25km nordöstlich Portsmouth: 2300m, 15.40, ., -, yes, C.2035/II, Anerk: Nr. -, OKL,
30-Sep-40, Uffz., , Schlig (Bs), I., 1., KG 51, Spitfire, 15km südlich Insel Wight: 3000m, 17.03, ., -, yes, C.2035/II, Anerk: ASM, OKL,
19-Apr-42, Uffz., , Heurig, I., 2., KG 51, I-15, 10km westlich Tuapse: 2000m, 14.55, ., -, yes, C.2034, Anerk: Nr. 5, ,
23-Apr-42, Fw., , Laube, I., 3., KG 51, I-17, Noworossijsk: 2500m, 12.27, ., -, yes, C.2034, Anerk: Nr. 4, ,
28-Apr-42, Ofw., , Göuls, I., 1., KG 51, I-16 Rata, Hafen Nowossiye: 2200m, 15.30, ., -, yes, C.2034, Anerk: Nr. -, ,
28-Apr-42, Fw., , Wolf, I., 1., KG 51, I-15, Hafen Nowossiye: 2500m, 15.30, ., -, yes, C.2034, Anerk: Nr. 13, ,
22-May-42, Fw., , Wolf, I., 1., KG 51, I-17, Szamnizy: 1500m, 13.50, ., -, yes, C.2034, Anerk: Nr. 14, ,
20-Aug-42, Uffz., , Buge, I., 2., KG 51, MiG-1, Bekietowkaja: 1500m, 11.00, ., -, yes, C.2032/II, VNE: ASM, ,
04-Sep-42, Fw., , Schollenbruck, I., 1., KG 51, I-15, Südrand Stalingrad: 1000m, 11.15, ., -, yes, C.2032/II, Anerk: Nr. 12, ,
17-Dec-42, Uffz., , Knoll, I., 2., KG 51, I-61, 12-15km nördlich Porgutschew: 2500m, 09.10, ., -, yes, C.2035/I, Anerk: Nr. 4, ,
31-Mar-44, Oberstltn., Wolf-Dietrich, Meister, II., Stab II., KG 51, Fortress II, östlich Cambridge: 300m, 04.33, 4., -, yes, C.2025/I, VNE: ASM, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.162; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.I, p.394, 12 Sq. Lancaster LM509 - damaged. Stab/KG 51 per Boiten.
12-Apr-44, Ltn., Wolfgang, Wenning, II., Stab II., KG 51, Fortress II, nördlich Ipswich: 300m, 00.42, 1., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 1, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.166; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.14, 96BG/413BS B-17G 42-97556.
12-Apr-44, Hptm., Dietrich, Puttfarken, II., 5., KG 51, Spitfire, PlQu. 13 52/05 Ost: 800m [bei Fl.Pl. Coltishall], 00.50, 1., -, yes, C.2027/I, VNE:ASM, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.166; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.14, 64 Sq. BL581.
12-Apr-44, Hptm., Dietrich, Puttfarken, II., 5., KG 51, Halifax, PlQu. 14 82/05 Ost: Tiefflug [bei Lincoln], 01.25, 2., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. -, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.166; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.14, 1654 CU Stirling LJ450.
19-Apr-44, Oblt., Klaus, Bieber, II., 5., KG 51, Lancaster, Cambridge, 02.25, 1., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 3, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.167; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.15, 115 Sq. LL667 or 625 Sq. ME734. Oblt. Claus Breissner per FMP, and claim?
19-Apr-44, Hptm., Dietrich, Puttfarken, II., 5., KG 51, Lancaster, PlQu. 03 30/05 Ost: [1-30km südlich King's Lynn], 02.25, 3., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 2, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.167; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.15, 115 Sq. LL667 or 625 Sq. ME734.
19-Apr-44, Ltn., Wolfgang, Wenning, II., Stab II., KG 51, Halifax, nordwestlich Hull, 03.47, 2., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 2, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.167; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.15, 115 Sq. Lancaster LL867.
21-Apr-44, Ltn., Wolfgang, Wenning, II., Stab II., KG 51, P-47, nördlich Cambridge, 05.10, 3., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 1, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.167; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.17, 7(P) AFU Magister II. Claimed by Bs Fw. Gustav Delp.
22-Apr-44, Hptm., Dietrich, Puttfarken, II., 5., KG 51, Halifax, England, -, 4., -, yes, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45 f. 168, , ,
22-Apr-44, Hptm., Dietrich, Puttfarken, II., 5., KG 51, Halifax, England, -, 5., -, yes, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45 f. 168, , ,
22-Apr-44, Fw., Johann, Trenke, II., 6., KG 51, Fortress II, PlQu. 05 Ost E / 18 84: [See, 120 oder 170km südöstlich Peterhead], 22.04, 1., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 2, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.168; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.20, 2nd BD B-24, unidentified.
22-Apr-44, Ltn., Wolfgang, Wenning, II., Stab II., KG 51, Halifax, PlQu. 13 68/05 Ost E: [See, 1-10km westlich-südlich Southwold], 22.05, 4., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 3, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.168; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.20, 2nd BD B-24, unidentified.
22-Apr-44, Uffz., , Beier, II., 6., KG 51, Halifax II, PlQu. 13 84/05 Ost E: [Küste bei oder südlich Aldeburgh], 22.10, 1., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 4, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.168; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.20, 2nd BD B-24, unidentified. Or Uffz. Baier per Boiten.
22-Apr-44, Fw., Johann, Trenke, II., 6., KG 51, Halifax, PlQu. 05 Ost E / 13 84: [Küste bei oder südlich Aldeburgh], 22.10, 2., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 4, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.168; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.20, 2nd BD B-24, unidentified.
22-Apr-44, Hptm., Werner, Düro, II., 4., KG 51, unbekannt, PlQu. 13 77/05 Ost E: [westsüdwestlich Rand Ipswich], 22.14, 1., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 1, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.168; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.20, 2nd BD B-24, unidentified.
22-Apr-44, Uffz., Gustav, Delp (Bs), II., 6., KG 51, Halifax, südlich Norwich, 22.15, 5., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 5, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.168; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.20, Bs to Ltn. Wolfgang Wenning. 2nd BD B-24, unidentified. Bs to Ltn. Wenning from Stab II./KG 51?
22-Apr-44, Fw., Johann, Trenke, II., 6., KG 51, Halifax, PlQu. 05 Ost E / 13 85: [See, 10-20km ostsüdöstlich Aldeburgh], 22.16, 3., -, yes, C.2027/I, VNE:ASM, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.168; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.20, 2nd BD B-24, unidentified.
22-Apr-44, Uffz., , Beier, II., 6., KG 51, Halifax II, PlQu. 13 76: [Fl.Pl. Woodbridge, nordöstlich Ipswich], 22.22, 2., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 6, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.168; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.20, 2nd BD B-24, unidentified. Or Uffz. Baier per Boiten.
22-Apr-44, Ltn., Uwe, Laas, II., 5., KG 51, Halifax, PlQu. 13 71/05 Ost E: [0-10km östlich Newmarket, östlich Ipswich], 22.26, 1., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 4, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.168; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.20, At 22.46 per claim?
22-Apr-44, Uffz., , Beier, II., 6., KG 51, Halifax II, westlich Orfordness:, 22.26, 3., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 7, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.168; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.20, 2nd BD B-24, unidentified. At 22.46 per claim?
23-Apr-44, Uffz., , Bongert, II., 4., KG 51, Halifax, PlQu. 13 38/05 Ost: [5-15km südlich-südwestlich Norwich, Fl.Pl. Hethel], 03.35, 1., -, yes, C.2027/I, VNE:ASM, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.169; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.21, poss. 389BG/565BS B-24J 44-40085.
25-Apr-44, Uffz., , Beier, II., 6., KG 51, Halifax, PlQu. 13 57/05 Ost: [5-15km südlich Diss], 03.58, 4., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 8, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.170; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.25, 626 Sq. Lancaster DV177.
25-Apr-44, Ltn., Wolfgang, Wenning, II., Stab II., KG 51, Halifax, 20km nordöstlich Cambridge: 1000m, 04.22, 5., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 87, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.170; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.25, 76 Sq. LK789.
27-Apr-44, Fw., Johann, Trenke, II., 6., KG 51, unbekannt, PlQu. 05 Ost / 03 56: [1-8km westlich Fl.Pl. Mildenhall], 04.25, 4., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 9, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.171; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.30, unidentified.
28-Apr-44, Uffz., Artur, Döhler, II., 5., KG 51, 4-mot. Flzg., PlQu. 242/15 Ost N: [Raum Cambridge], 04.15, 1., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 5, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.172; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.34,
07-May-44, Oblt., , Czerwinski, I., Stab I., KG 51, Halifax, südsüdwestlich La Prisière: 2000m, 02.27, 1., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 4, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.174; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.42, 156 Sq. Lancaster ND449. südwestlich La Ferrière per Boiten.
08-May-44, Oblt., , Czerwinski, I., 1., KG 51, Halifax, 25km nordwestlich Tours: 3000m, 03.02, 2., -, yes, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 11, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.175; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.43, 138 Sq. LL280.
12-May-44, Uffz., Walter, Breugel, II., 4., KG 51, 4-mot. Flzg., Bredstedt: 100m, 02.38, 1., -, noch, C.2027/I, Anerk: Nr. 2, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.176; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.47, unidentified. 2./KG 51?
22-May-44, Uffz., , Beier, II., 6., KG 51, B-24, PlQu. 03 65/05 Ost S: 600m [1-10km nördlich-nordöstlich Bury St. Edmunds], 02.51, 5., -, yes, C.2027/II, Anerk: Nr. 11, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.178; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.52, poss. 619 Sq. Lancaster NN965.
22-May-44, Uffz., , Beier, II., 6., KG 51, B-24, PlQu. 03 67/05 Ost S: 50m [3-13km westlich-nordwestlich Bury St. Edmunds], 02.56, 6., -, yes, C.2027/II, VNE:ASM, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.178; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.52,
22-May-44, Fw., Johann, Trenke, II., 6., KG 51, Lancaster, PlQu. 05 Ost S / 04 89: 1200m [3-13km nördlich-nordwestlich Blakeney Point], 03.05, 5., -, yes, C.2027/II, Anerk: Nr. 12, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.178; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.52, unidentified.
22-May-44, Fw., Johann, Trenke, II., 6., KG 51, Lancaster, PlQu. 05 Ost S / 03 17/05 Ost S: 800m [15-25km westnordwestlich King's Lynn], 03.14, 6., -, yes, C.2027/II, Anerk: Nr. 13, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.178; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.52, poss. 619 Sq. NN965.
22-May-44, Fw., Johann, Trenke, II., 6., KG 51, Lancaster, PlQu. 05 Ost E / 03 24/ZZ: 800m [10-20km nordöstlich King's Lynn], 03.22, 7., -, yes, C.2027/II, VNE:ASM, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.178; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.52,
29-May-44, Fw., Ernst, Dietrich, II., 6., KG 51, Stirling, PlQu. EC 2/05 Ost S: 300m [Norfolk], 02.40, 1., -, yes, C.2027/II, Anerk: Nr. 10, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.181; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.61, No. 1657 CU R9298. Besätzung per claim?
13-Jun-44, Uffz., , Ottren, II., 6., KG 51, Abschuß, PlQu. 43 81zz: 200m [England], 01.25, 1., -, yes, C.2027/II, Anerk: Nr. 14, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.187; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.79, intruder claim, unidentified. Or Stab II./KG 51 per Boiten.
13-Jun-44, Fw., , Visintin, II., 5., KG 51, Halifax, PlQu. 03 78/05 Ost: 200m [Saffron Walden, südöstlich Cambridge], 03.12, 1., -, yes, C.2027/II, Anerk: Nr. 6, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.188; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.79,
17-Jun-44, Uffz., , Ottren, II., 6., KG 51, 4-mot. Flzg., PlQu. 22 25/05 Ost: 4500m [See, 70-80km nördlich Ostende], 02.00, 2., -, yes, C.2027/II, Anerk: Nr. 15, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.189; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.84, poss. 199 Sq. Stirling LJ531.
17-Jun-44, Fw., Johann, Trenke, II., 6., KG 51, 4-mot. Flzg., PlQu. 05 Ost / 121: [Themsemündung, südlich Clacton-on-Sea], 02.15, 8., -, yes, C.2027/II, Anerk: Nr. 16, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.190; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.84, unidentified.
28-Jun-44, Ltn., , Markan, II., 4., KG 51, 4-mot. Flzg., PlQu. 03 76/05 Ost S: 350m [10-20km südlich Newmarket], 02.27, 1., -, yes, C.2027/II, Anerk: Nr. 3, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.194; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.93, 90 Sq. Lancaster NE145.
28-Jun-44, Ltn., , Friedrich, II., 5., KG 51, Stirling, PlQu. 12 23/15 West S: 300m [1-12km östlich Letchworth], 02.30, 1., -, yes, C.2027/II, Anerk: Nr. 7, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.194; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.93, 801BG/850BS B-24H 42-95321.
28-Jun-44, Uffz., Franz, Wachtler, II., 4., KG 51, Lancaster, PlQu. 03 78/05 Ost S: 400m [Saffron Walden], 02.31, 1., -, yes, C.2027/II, Anerk: Nr. 4, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.194; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.93, 90 Sq. LM164 - damaged.
03-Jul-44, Fw., Johann, Trenke, II., 6., KG 51, Abschuß, PlQu. 05 Ost S / 007: 500m [~England], 00.14, 9., -, yes, C.2027/II, Anerk: Nr. 18, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.195,
06-Jul-44, Uffz., , Illner, II., 6., KG 51, 2-mot. Flzg., PlQu. UU/15 West S: 1500m [Caen], 02.38, 1., -, yes, C.2027/II, Anerk: Nr. 17, FMP, LW NF Claims 39-45, p.198; Boiten, Nachtjagd War Diaries, V.II, p.100, poss. 105 Sq. Mosquito ML913.
03-Dec-44, Ofw., , Petersen, I., 2., KG 51, B-24, zw. Weert und Venlo, 09.25, ., -, yes, C.2027/II, Anerk: Nr. -, ,
05-Dec-44, Fw., , Schmidt, I., 1., KG 51, B-17, PlQu. GP 35/05 Ost: 1800m, 13.08, ., -, yes, C.2027/II, Anerk: Nr. -, ,
29-Jan-45, , Hubert, Lange, I., , KG 51, P-47, zwischen Illhausen und Giebelstadt, 10.-11.00, 1., -, yes, Lange per Gaemperle, , Wehrpass signed by Adj. Oblt. Hovestadt,
02-Feb-45, , Hubert, Lange, I., , KG 51, B-24, bei Rheine, 13.-15.00, 2., -, yes, Lange per Gaemperle, , Wehrpass signed by Adj. Oblt. Hovestadt,
21-Feb-45, , Hubert, Lange, I., , KG 51, P-47, zwischen Hopsten und Kleve, 17.-18.00, 3., -, yes, Lange per Gaemperle, , Wehrpass signed by Adj. Oblt. Hovestadt,
13-Mar-45, , Hubert, Lange, I., , KG 51, P-47, zwischen Hopsten und Kleve, 14.-16.00, 4., -, yes, Lange per Gaemperle, , Wehrpass signed by Adj. Oblt. Hovestadt,
13-Mar-45, , Hubert, Lange, I., , KG 51, P-47, zwischen Hopsten und Kleve, 14.-16.00, 5., -, yes, Lange per Gaemperle, , Wehrpass signed by Adj. Oblt. Hovestadt,

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