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Re: VVS operations 6-8 may & 8-10 june 1943, claims and losses.

And to finish a picture of bloodly 8 june 1943:

8 june 1943.

2 air raids of 15 VA and 1 VA.

1 VA : Sescha 20:20 - 20:25.
1st wave:
6 x Il-2 (leader Maj. M.Bondarenko, 198 shap) with close escort of 6 x Yak-1 (leader Kap. Gugnin, 122 iap);
6 x Il-2 (leader Kap. V.Malinkin, 198 shap), 5 x La-5 (49 iap);
1 x Il-2 (leader Kap. Gubanov, 62 shap) with escort of 5 x Yak-7 (172 iap. Kap.Sibirtzev), 6 x Yak-1 (162 iap) and 5 x Yak-1 (172 iap);
2nd wave:
9 x Pe-2 (2 bap), 9 x Pe-2 (261 bap), 8 x Pe-2 (bap) with escort of 42 x La-5 (2 giap, 263 iap, 522 iap)

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Road to target:

In the area of Dolgoye group was intercepted by 6 x Fw190.

Claims:
Fw190 was shot down by Yak-1 (Kap. N.Gugnin, 122 iap), crashed in area of Dolgoye;

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Over the target:
Groups of Il-2 were intercepted by large groups of Bf109 and Fw190's.

Losses:
La-5 (Ml.Lt. Stadnichuk, 522 iap) was shot down by AAA, crashed at Bryn' area.

Sescha airfield:
198 shap: ~ 20 aircrafts destroyed, damaged ~ 15, 3 large explosions (thought fuel and ammo depots);
2 bap, 261 bap: destroye d5 aircrafts, several buildings, 3 explosions.

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Road from target to home bases:

After attack both groups came under attack of another group of Fw190 (1st two groups of Fw190's fought against escort fighters to manage them out of Il-2's and Pe-2's). Attacks followed from Sescha to frontline and even further.

Claims:
Fw190 shot down by Il-2 gunner (crew of leader of all formation Maj. M.Bondarenko, 198 shap), crashed in area Zagorje, E from Rekovichi;
Fw190 shot down by Il-2 (Kap. Mailinkin, 198 shap), crashed in swamp near Sescha;
Fw190 shot down by Yak-1 (Kap. Gugnin, 122 iap), crashed near Sescha airfield;
Fw190 shot down by Yak-1 (Ml.Lt. Bushkov, 122 iap), crashed near Sescha airfield;
Fw190 shot down by Yak-7 (Kap. Sibirtzev, 172 iap), crashed near Sescha airfield;
Fw190 shot down by La-5 (Maj. Alifanov, 263 iap), crashed 8 kms NW Sescha airfield;
Fw190 shot down by La-5 (Ml.Lt. Sapegin, 263 iap), crashed 12 kms NW Sescha airfield;
Fw190 shot down by La-5 (Kap. Popov, 263 iap), crashed 25 kms NE Sescha airfield;
Fw190 shot down by La-5 (Lt. Kosolapov, 2 giap), crashed 6 kms SE Sel'tzo;
Fw190 shot down by Pe-2 gunners, (crew of Lt. Vorobjov, 261 bap), crashed near Sescha airfield;

Losses:
Pe-2 (Ml.Lt. Zakharchenko, 2 bap), damaged by enemy fighers, crashed on landing;
Pe-2 (Kap. Fedchenko, 2 bap), damaged by enemy fighers, crashed on landing;
Pe-2 (Maj. Petrov, 261 bap), damaged by enemy fighers, crashed on landing;
Pe-2 (Serj. Struchkov, 261 bap), shot down by enemy fighers, failed to return from combat mission in area on Sescha;
Pe-2 (Serj. Yerotzky, 261 bap), shot down by enemy fighers, failed to return from combat mission in area on Sescha;
Il-2 (Maj. M.Bondarenko, 198 shap) damaged by enemy fighters at Sescha-Ludinovka, could reach territory and emlanded;
Il-2 (Ml.Lt. Petrov, 198 shap) damaged by Fw190, could reach his airfield emlanded;
Il-2 (Ml.Lt. Zinovsky, 198 shap) damaged by Fw190, could reach territory and emlanded at airfield Zhelezniki;
Il-2 (Ml.Lt. Zakharov, 198 shap) damaged by Fw190, could reach territory and emlanded at airfield Ostrova;
Il-2 (Lt. Drozdov, 198 shap) damaged by Fw190, could reach territory and emlanded 15km SW Medyn';
La-5 (Starsh. Smolyanov, 49 iap) damaged by enemy fighters, emlanded at airfield Ostrova;
Yak-1 (St.Lt. Sychev, 162 iap) damaged by enemy fighters, emlanded at airfield Dvoyevka;
Yak-1 (St.Lt. Vinokurov, 122 iap) failed to return on combat mission.
Yak-1 (St.Lt. Minarsky, 162 iap) failed to return on combat mission.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nokose View Post
Hptm Hermann 3/ZG1 shows on Tony Woods list Il-2 m.b. [Il-4] 19:25 and Il-4 19:33. ...
... Il-4 is a two motor bomber.
"Il-4" missidentification of I./ZG 1 was discussed already.

BTW: fates of Hptm. W.Hermann and Kap. V.Malinkin (leader of 2nd group of 198 shap in that day) will cross a bit later, on 13 july 1943. In crazy furball of 4 Il-2, leaded by squadron leader of 1st squadron of 198 shap Kap. Malinkin and 12 Bf110G-2 from Stab./ZG 1, Stab I./ZG 1 and 1./ZG 1 Kap. Malinkin was shot down and killed by Wilfried Hermann. Wingman of Malinkin, further Il-2 expert and twice Hero of Soviet Union Lt. Efimov shot down Comodore ZG 1 J.Blechschmitt. Malinkin had at that time 5 enemy fighters at his score. In Tony Woods lists claim of Hermann on 13 july listed as "Il-4". It is just mean "Il-2 new (with gunner) modification", because to midsummer 1943 not all of Il-2's had gunners.

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Originally Posted by Nokose View Post
Does anyone have losses for JG51 for the claims made by the VVS?
Good question
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