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Old 11th October 2023, 22:20
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Re: Claim Oblt Dippel 9/JG26 on december 01 1943

According to https://www.aviationarchaeology.com/...CR_1943Dec.asp
5 P-47 were lost over Europe by 8th AF on 1st December 1943

431201 01276 P-47D-5 42-8607 _ Hq 56FG 8 Ludwig, Vance P KIA BEL Aachen area Merdrop-1km SE/ (De Ster nr Sint Niklaas [BAHA]) _
431201 01277 P-47D-6 42-74631 _ 62FS 56FG 8 Pruden, Harry M Jr KIA BEL Cologne-15mi W Etichove [BAHA] _
431201 01287 P-47D-2 42-22545 _ 357FS 355FG 8 Williamson, Jesse M POW GER Gelsdorf _ _
431201 01432 P-47C-2 41-6211 _ 61FS 56FG 8 Brown, Cleve M Jr POW BEL Beverloo AD/Ghent-12mi E Ritterhude _
431201 01435 P-47D-2 42-8006 _ 358FS 355FG 8 Hull, James C KIA BEL Antwerp area Sterken-nr/Antwerp-1km S &16km W _

Against these losses, in my old Tony Wood files (I had a PC crash recently and lost more recent files) there are 14 claims for P-47 this day:
01.12.43 Ltn. Franz Ruhl: n.b. 4./JG 3 P-47  - 11.27 Reference: JG 3 Lists f. 452
01.12.43 Oblt. Hans-Georg Dippel: 18 ► 9./JG 26 P-47  MJ-2m: 8.000 m. [Beveren/Antwerp] 11.32 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.111
01.12.43 Uffz. Janke: n.L. 3./JG 3 P-47  ON: 8.000 m. [Eupen: Hohe Venn] 11.37 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.60
01.12.43 Fw. Hans-Eberhard Blume: 1 ► 4./JG 27 P-47  N.W. Bonn: 7.500 m. 12.05 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.21
01.12.43 Oblt. Gerhard Sommer: 15 4./JG 11 P-47  PO 9-9 Eifel: 9.000 m. 12.05 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.68
01.12.43 Fw. Heinz Hanke: 4 ► 3./JG 11 P-47  - 12.17 Reference: JG 1/11 Lists f. 641
01.12.43 Fw. Schneider: 4 6./JG 11 P-47  NH 7: 9.500 m. [S. Oudenaarde] 12.45 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.15
01.12.43 Ltn. Reden [sic] 6./ZG 26 P-47  W. Lüttich: 4.300 m. [Liège] 12.45 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.54
01.12.43 Major Egon Mayer: 85 ► Stab/JG 2 P-47  O -OK: 7.500 m. [Gembloux-Huy area] 12.50 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.113
01.12.43 Major Egon Mayer: 86 ► Stab/JG 2 P-47  OL-OK: 7.500 m. [Liège area] 12.50 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.114
01.12.43 Major Egon Mayer: 87 ► Stab/JG 2 P-47  OK: 7.000 m. [Gembloux area] 12.53 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.115
01.12.43 Major Egon Mayer: 88 ► Stab/JG 2 P-47  NK: 7.000 m. [Leuven area] 12.53 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: ASM
01.12.43 Oblt. Rudolf Leuschel 8./JG 26 P-47  bei Ghent: 6.000 m. 13.00 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.11
01.12.43 Fw. Bernhard Kunze: 8 1./JG 1 P-47  - - Reference: JG 1/11 Lists f. 641

I have not the corresponding recent books by Prien and co to check and probably correct the above German claims, but it is probable that for each US losses several claims were made.
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