[Adriano Baumgartner]

Hello Nokose, Yogibar and others!
I am following this thread with interest, although I am not an specialist on Eastern Front. These were the claims by Normandie on 17th October ( 14:00h mission ). I am not putting the other claims ( 09:20h mission + 12:00h mission ):
1- Aspirant Pierre Lorillon ( 2 fw 190 ) one S of Gumbinnen the other at Gumbinnen
2- Aspirant Charles Monier ( 1 FW 190 ) S of Gumbinnen
3- Aspirant Marcel Perrin ( 1 Fw 190 ) over or at Stalluponen
The losses for this 14:00h mission: only Aspirant Lorillon that collided with a Fw 190, lost 1,5 meters of his wing and crash landed.
Jean Emonet was shot down by a Bf 109 and wounded near Wirbalis earlier ( 09:29h mission ). He bailed out and was rescued by a Russian Tank Unit. It seems that he was sent for a Moscow´s Hospital, but we do not have an entry date for that.
On the other subject: YES, Challe was flying a YAK 3. Trenkel mentioned a Yak 9 on his report, after he was shot down, but the author ( Christian-Jacques Ehrengardt says that if he was not even able to identify the enemy he was fighting how could he be so sure - "catégorique"? ). Trenkel took off with two other Bf 109 : Fhr Walter Winsdich ( also shot down ) and Lt. August Rieckhoff, both from .2/ JG 52.
The SG unit seems to be either I/SG 1 or I/SG 4, because II/SG 4 only came to the theater of operations on 22nd October. I do not know if II or any Gruppe of SG 3 was, at this time, flew on the 17th around the area we are looking for...( Gumbinnen, Stalluponen, Eydtkunnen ). Anyone has any kind of information about that? It seems that I/ JG 52 moved to Ebenrode on the 15th October and the III/ JG 52 on the 17th to Trakehen. But this is an area for you Experts on Eastern Front...
Hope I have helped with more info...If I find more I will be glad to share with you guys. Sincere and friendly as ever
Adriano