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Old 13th October 2018, 11:28
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Re: Strange case of Walter Dahl

This is what I can find when you compare his claims against US missions.

30,1.45 General der flieger Obstlt B-17 raum Berlin Berlin area 1155
30,1.45 General der flieger Obstlt P-51 raum Berlin Berlin area 1200
8th AF did not do any operations on this date,nor did the 15th AF.
No MACRs match

31.1.45 General der flieger Obstlt P-51 raum Berlin Berlin area 1115
8th AF went to Brunswick, Bremen and Hallendorf
15th went to Moosebierbaum in Austria (300 miles away), smaller operations to Graz and Maribor
Only P-51 MACR is 11839 P-51D 44-13509 52FG Ralston Lake, Hungary

4,2.45 General der flieger Obstlt P-38 raum Berlin Berlin area 1400
8th AF 3 F-5s on recon, no losses
15th AF no operations took place
No MACRs match

4,3.45 General der flieger Obstlt P-51 raum Berlin Berlin area 935 150
8th AF went to Southern Germany
15th AF went to Hungary and Austria
RAF BC to Ruhr
No MACRs match

16,3.45 General der flieger Obstlt P-38 25km westlich Brandenburg 25km W Brandenburg 1025 1200
8th AF only minor operations
15th AF was in Austria and southern Germany (P-51s)
No MACRs match

27,3.45 General der flieger Obstlt P-47 westenrand Ammersee western bank of lake Ammer 1105 800
27,3.45 General der flieger Obstlt P-47 20km östlich München 20km E Munich 1100 100

8th AF only minor operations
15th AF no operations
Obviously more likely to be 9th AF or 1 TAF if it is a P-47
MACR 13673 P-47D 44-20593 367FG Redstock, Frankfurt
No MACRs match
III/EJG2 claimed six P-47s this day

29,3.45 General der flieger Obstlt B-17 raum Berlin Berlin area 1510 tiefflug
8th AF did no operations
15th AF did no operations
RAF BC to mid Germany
No MACRs for B-17s

20,4.45 General der flieger Obst P-51 raum München Munich area 1610 300
8th AF extensive operations
15th AF attacked Austria and Italy
MACR 14101 P-51D 44-72076 of the 354th FG lost Prague – wrong place

24,4.45 General der flieger Obst B-17 20km westlich München 20km W Munich 1030 1500
8th AF did no operations
15th AF were in Austria and Northern Italy
B-17 43-38685 lost on trip to Rheine – wrong place


26,4.45 General der flieger Obst P-51 25km südlich München 25km S Munich 1730 200
8th AF did no operations
15th AF were in Northern Italy
P-51 44-72967 of 354th FG lost dive bombing N of Raudnitz – wrong place and time

27,4.45 General der flieger Obst B-17 10km südöstlich München 10km SE Munich 1035 200
27,4.45 General der flieger Obst B-17 20km westlich Augsburg 20km W Augsburg 1240 300
8th AF did no operations
15th AF did no operations
No MACRs

28,4.45 General der flieger Obst P-51 10km südöstlich Salzburg 10km SE Salzburg 1230 5000
28,4.45 General der flieger Obst B-17 50km südöstlich Salzburg 50km SE Salzburg 1440 3500
8th AF did no operations
15th AF did no operations
No MACRs

30,4.45 General der flieger Obst B-17 20km nördlich München 20km N Munich 1630 6000 N 90 Me262
8th AF did no operations
15th AF did no operations
No MACRs

Sorry I do not have the knowledge to do the same for the Russians.

However as you can essentially dismiss 17 aircraft from his list, including 7 B-17s, why are we discussing whether he claimed his 99th or 100th on a particular date?


Having done this I firmly suspect that he was flying a mahogany fighter during this period


Martin
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