[Johannes]

Not such sweeping claims. All other spectacular claimers with the exception of Marseille have proved to be "over-claimers", and proved being the proof i.e claims versus losses.

This can't be incomplete losses data as some high scoring, though unspectacular claimers have been given the thumbs-up. Classic example Helmut Lipfert thumbs-up by researchers.

Spectacular pilots I can usually say who they worked it with, but unable to say with Hartmann or Batz, yet I am told it is so, and told so by dedicated researchers.

Kind Regards

Johannes