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Old 10th July 2005, 17:42
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Re: Lost Ju 52s in January, 1945

Hi Gabor,

this is what I have:
The sourced is the Genst.Gen. Qu. 6. Abt.

06-01-45 III./TG correction Ofw. Hammer Walter WIA

Fw. Fischer Rudolf MIA

Ofw. Braun Thomas MIA

06-01-45 III./TG 3 H Budapest Crash, fire on impact Ju 52/3m will follow 100
Fw. Edelmann Alfred F KIA
Fw. Frerichs Martin B WIA

Ogefr. Siebert Rudolf Bf WIA

Fw. Ulbrich Erich Bw KIA


14-01-45 II./TG 2 H Papa Crash, technical problems Ju 52/3m 130735 70
Ofw. Dietrich F WIA
Ofw. Brübach Bf WIA

Ofw. Kalnischke Bm WIA

Fw. Walter Bs WIA


16-01-45 II./TG 2 F Unknown Unknown Ju 52/3m 641033 8TÌFN 100
Ofw. Tielemann Otto F MIA
Ofw. Pfeiffer Gottfried Bf MIA

Ofw. Scherer Oskar Bm MIA

Gefr. Gronerst Hatmut Bs MIA

Ofhr. Becher Georg F MIA


16-01-45 II./TG 2 F Not reported Enemy attack Ogefr. Emmich Bs KIA

16-01-45 III./TG 3 F Not reported Enemy attack
Ofw. Weissert Bf WIA
Ogefr. Kappenhagen Bm WIA

Uffz. Giesemann Bs WIA

Fw. Meyer Bs WIA


16-01-45 III./TG 4 F Unknown Flak hits Ju 52/3m 640612 G6ÌDU 100
Ofw. Rupp Josef F MIA
Ofw. Lechelt Rudolf Bf MIA

Uffz. Grunert Helmut Bm MIA

Ofw. Meinecke Hermann Bs MIA


16-01-45 III./TG 4 F SW Stuhlweißenburg Devensive fire Ju 52/3m 131068 60
Hptm. Büsselmann Ernst F WIA
Ogefr. Killing Karl-Heinz B KIA


16-01-45 III./TG 4 correction Ofw. Jaschinski Otto


17-01-45 III./TG 3 H Not reported Crash, fire on impact Ju 52/3m 10015 100
Uffz. Glatter F WIA
Uffz. Müller Bf KIA

Uffz. Wölfer Bm KIA

Gefr. Wehler Bs KIA


18-01-45 SchleppStzbV Reich F Near Gran Unknown DFS 230 to follow 100 Fw. Kappacher Kurt F MIA


18-01-45 SchleppStzbV Reich F Near Budapest Unknown DFS 230 to folow 100 Fw. Schilling August F MIA

18-01-45 SchleppStzbV Reich F Near Budapest Unknown DFS 230 to follow 100 Ogefr. Spichtinger Jakob F MIA

The following losses of Schleppgruppe zbV Reich occurr during the period 18-01-45 to 04-02-45. The exact date is not reported.
XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 0086 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 0108 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 0424 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 2086 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 21279 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 21293 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 21349 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 21352 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 22143 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 22156 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 22166 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 22179 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 22200 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 22203 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 22213 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 22346 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 22857 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 22902 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 25128 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 25259 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 25293 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 25358 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 25362 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 25364 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 25506 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 25509 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 25510 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 27040 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 27058 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 27085 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 27213 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 27282 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 27345 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 27407 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 27462 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 27518 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 27589 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 120151 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 120161 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 122814 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 122888 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 127225 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 170003 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 170004 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 170005 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 170006 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 220406 100

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown DFS 230 221288 100

The following pilots were reported missing in action during the same time period. Possibly used in ground fighting with infantry.

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Ltn. Wachter F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Ofhr. Müller F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Fhr. Dörner F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Fhr. Reinholdt F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Ofw. Filins F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Ofw. Haupt F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Ofw. Kleinke F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Fw. Jung F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Fw. Kazzacher F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Fw. Lindemann F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Fw. Schilling F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Fw. Tiethmüller F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Berger F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Busch F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Drescher F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Held F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Herda F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Irion F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Itter F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Jäger F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Kröger F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Kusserow F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Lienemann F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Martin F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Mayer F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Noack F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Ochsenfatth F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Petri F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Pickard F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Roholick F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Savenburg F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Schwarze F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Schödel F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Steinbart F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Thicke F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Toth F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Verpott F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Uffz. Veit Hans F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Ogefr. Günther F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Ogefr. Hess F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Ogefr. Hoffmann F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Ogefr. Keck F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Ogefr. Körner F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Ogefr. Rüdel F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Ogefr. Schäfer F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Ogefr. Schirmeier F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Ogefr. Schlöppmann F MIA

XX-01-45 SchleppGrpzbV Reich F Budapest Unknown Ogefr. Spichtilger F MIA

19-01-45 II./TG 2 F W Papa Fighter attack Ju 52/3m 7230 100 Stfw. Geißler Heinrich F WIA

Uffz. Lowinski Josef Bf KIA

Uffz. Weidinger Roman Bw WIA

Ogefr. Winterberg Gerhard Bs WIA


19-01-45 SchleppStzbV Reich H Near Gießen Forced landing, poor weather DFS 230 A-2 122163 25

24-01-45 III./TG 2 H AF Papa Engine trouble Ju 52/3m 7168 35


27-01-45 III./TG 2 F Unknown Unknown Ju 52/3m 5542 8TÌAR 100
Fw. Kreymeier Josef F MIA
Ogefr. Wyers Mathias Bf MIA

Uffz. Burmeister Werner Bm MIA

Fhr. Christian Anton Bs MIA

27-01-45 III./TG 3 F Unknown Flak hits Ju 52/3m 3259 G6ÌAP 100
Oltn. Czirz Johann F KIA
Fw. Schramm B KIA

Uffz. Rieser Bf MIA

27-01-45 III./TG 3 H Uij-Molomsck Gear damage Ju 52/3m 10017 25

27-01-45 Schleppgruppe 1 F Sagan-Küpper Artillerie hits
Ofw. Hauschild Alfr Bw WIA

28-01-45 II./TG 2 F Budapest Flak hits Ju 52/3m 501434 10 Uffz. Holder Herbert Bf WIA


It is not the best formatting, but I'm sure you will figuer it out. Any questions regarding the entries fire away.

Reagrds,

Norbert
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