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Old 7th November 2017, 22:52
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Re: Luftwaffe around Verona, 6 November 1944

Hi Nick,
Thanks for your detailed response and your patience with me! (I'm not sure which is more impressive. :-) )

I know enough about the B-25 groups to be dangerous but next to nothing about the ANR. I hope I didn't come off as dismissive but given how little I know about the subject I wanted to make sure I had all the details straight.

Everything you mentioned points to the IIš Gr. C. being the likely enemy aircraft unit that was spotted by those B-25 groups so I'll go with that.

As I looked back through several mission reports by the 310th, 321st and 340th BGs last night I was interested to see just how many instances the B-25 crews reported sighting FW-190s and Ma202 in late 1944 and early 1945. I suppose (as you surmised) that when planes are coming at you at 400mph, everything looks like a FW190, BF109 or Ma202 if that's what you're expecting to see. To make things even more interesting, one crew also reported seeing jet contrails. Do you know of any Me262s, Me163s or Ar234s in Italy or is this just another case of misinterpreting things? I was also interested at how many other times both Iš Gr. C. and IIš Gr. C. tangled with the B-25s and their "escorts". Two stuck out in my mind: 10 December 1944 and 14 March 1945. I don't suppose you have any specific details on those engagements?

I'm also going to look for your book before I forget.
Thanks again.
Chris
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