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Originally Posted by focusfocus
Hello
What were the losses of the JG2 and JG26 that day (around 20.00)
In the Caldwell book p.144.
Two Fw.190 8/JG26? shot down (pilots bailed out)
one Bf.109 11 staffel shot down,JG2 or JG26?
Nothing in the table casualties p.146.
What are the allied claims-exception of Clostermann-
Michel
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I think you have not checked well, because the death of Uffz. Krieg of 5./JG 26 is described both in the narrative page 144 and the loss list page 146.
For the three other losses of JG 26 (two of 8./JG 26 and one of 11./JG 26) the pilot was unhurt and in this kind of case Caldwell does not list the losses in his tables in the book, except in the rare case when the pilot is known. Caldwell does not list ground losses either.
Here is what the Luftwaffe losses summary database has for this day and JG 2 and JG 26:
Stab/J.G.2: 1 damaged without enemy action on operational flight (reported on 30/08/1943)
I./J.G.2: 1 destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy (reported on 01/09/1943)
II./J.G.2: 1 damaged without enemy action on operational flight (reported on 30/08/1943)
II./J.G.2: 1 damaged without enemy action on operational flight (reported on 31/08/1943)
10./J.G.2: 1 damaged without enemy action on operational flight (reported on 30/08/1943)
10./J.G.2: 1 destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy (reported on 01/09/1943)
I./J.G.26: 2 destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy (reported on 31/08/1943)
I./J.G.26: 1 destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy (reported on 11/09/1943)
II./J.G.26: 1 destroyed by gunfire from enemy aircraft during operational flight, observed by enemy (reported on 30/08/1943)
II./J.G.26: 1 destroyed without enemy action on operational flight (reported on 30/08/1943)
That is 5 total losses for JG 26, against 4 in Caldwell's narrative. 8./JG 26 and 11./JG 26 were then flying with the "Geschwader Stab Gruppe" and their losses might be the ones reported as I./JG 26 above. Krieg was a member of II./JG 26, so we are missing one loss with enemy action for II./JG 26.
I don't have Prien JFV book for 1943 West front, but can someone provide the losses for JG 2 and JG 26 that day ?