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Old 4th January 2005, 00:28
Franek Grabowski Franek Grabowski is offline
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Re: Ofw. Niedereichholz

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The Polish pilots with the Fw190 wing are on page 39. I do not think this wing belonges to 173932. Fw190s from this serie usualy have a different type of underwing balkenkreutz than the one shown here.
Well, that is the story written but I suppose there was plenty of wings available at the time.

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There is not enough information in this photograph for me to ty this wing to a certain Fw190 series.
I think all I can say is that it definetelly looks like a wing of a German aircraft!

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I agree that some of the Germans corpses must have been badly burned. However, when a Dutch forensic dentist, who was involved in the identification of victims of the El-Al crash in Amsterdam in 1992, was asked, he said that it was higly unlikely that a human body was completely burned, there is always something left.
The question is what we consider something. A few ounces of charred meat or ashes is not a recoverable body, especialy if they were mixed with remains of an aircraft. I know of a crash of Yak aircraft in Poland post war and the only recoverable part of a pilot was his cap left in a locker.
Another problem we must remember here, are high impact crashes. They were not very feasible to recover at the time, so many of airmen or parts of their bodies are still residing in respective crashsites.

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I gues that it just wasn't such a high prioryty in those day. As John wrote
"about 3 or 4 pilots which crashed in that area, were identified by the Allies but their graves are unknown"
Well, the question is, who was responsible for recovery and burial of enemy soldiers. Perhaps the graves exist or existed but were not of care of CWGC.

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Ofw. Niedereichholz was never found nor any trace of his a/c was ever found.
Do you suggest it sould not have been his aircraft, the one described by Jerzy? Anyone of you, can you send me a small scan of the photo, so I can send it to Jerzy for comments? I do not have either print or scan at hand! Jerzy remembers that someone took documents from the headless body, so I presume the latter must have been identified. Apparently the answer is in archives.

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I don't think these pilots were burned beyond recognition, at least not when they were shot down at low level over the airfield.
Well, it depends. At least one pilot crashed into a B-17 and judging by remains of B-24, I do not think there were any remains.

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Most of them would have been catapulted out of the cockpit like horrible pictures of Eindhoven and Metz show also (not published by me as this was a step too far).
I respectfully dissagree. Such photos are indeed not very pleasant but they show and document a real nature of war. Everyone of us can see plenty of dead bodies in TV on a daily basis, so I do not think some old B&W photos may shock anyone. Everything just epends on how the photo is described and displayed.
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