[Leo Etgen]

Hello Nef

Many thanks for your post which includes much information. Looking through Wood's claims list, I see that Hauptmann Heinz Bär claimed two Fortress II bombers (153-154), Oberfeldwebel Wilhelm Baumgartner a P-38 fighter (30) and Oberfeldwebel Heinrich Hackler a P-38 fighter (46). I get the impression that the two P-38 fighters claimed by Leutnant Heinz-Edgar Berres were indeed confirmed as his 28th and 29th victories and that these simply are not listed in the previous JG 77 lists. According to Wood's lists, therefore, we get a total of two Fortress II bombers and seven P-38 fighters claimed. It would be interesting to know how many of these losses can be confirmed in American loss lists. I also would like to know more about Rammelt's claim as unfortunately I have a gap in his victory list at around that time. Nef, many thanks for the possible identification of who shot Hackl down, it is very appreciated!

Horrido!

Leo