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Old 2nd May 2009, 14:54
Cantacuzino Cantacuzino is offline
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Re: Erich Hartmann vs. P-51

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This single claim was submitted on 24 Jun 44 –anyone venture to indicate whom his victim might have been?

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you probably know that 325. FG lost two ships:

318. FS "42" Joseph W. Harper MIA 42-103599
319. FS "75" Howard F. Welch MIA 42-103552

The victim of Erich Hartmann on 24 june'44 was Joseph W. Harper.
The witness of the fight was romanian baterry nr 60 Krupp wich reported that one of their projectiles exploded near right side of a Mustang. The Mustang began to dive with white smoke on tail. At aprox 1500m height, two german fighters set the Mustang on fire and crashed near Loloiasca village (Prahova county). The pilot bail out and was interned in hospital of Urlati village due to his burns at head.
From the list of Tony Woods there were 3 P-51 claimed by germans over Romania that day, but only one crashed on romanian soil (Harper's P-51) the other pilot from 325th FG, Howard Welch crashed near Pesaro,Adriatic shore (Italy).

24.06.44 Fw. Dieter Voigt Stab II./SG 2 P-51 Mustang £ 65 331: at 7.000 m.09.25 FilmC. 2032/IAnerk: Nr. 24
24.06.44 Oblt. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Mustang £ 65 136: at 3.000 m. 09.50 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 454
24.06.44 Fhj.Fw. Hans-Joachim Birkner 9./JG 52 Mustang £ 65 133: at 6.000 m. 09.56 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 455

In the MACR report was mentioned that Harper engaged in fight at 9.20 hour, with 6 Meserschmitt's.

Attached Harper's MACR files

Cheers
Dan.

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