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Old 3rd May 2009, 06:03
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Re: Erich Hartmann vs. P-51

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Dan,

thanks for your help in clearing up an aviation mystery!
Hi Rob

Glad to help in this issue, but the mistery is not complet cleared.

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24.06.44 Fw. Dieter Voigt Stab II./SG 2 P-51 Mustang £ 65 331: at 7.000 m.09.25 FilmC. 2032/IAnerk: Nr. 24
24.06.44 Oblt. Erich Hartmann 9./JG 52 Mustang £ 65 136: at 3.000 m. 09.50 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 454
24.06.44 Fhj.Fw. Hans-Joachim Birkner 9./JG 52 Mustang £ 65 133: at 6.000 m. 09.56 Film C. 2032/I Anerk: Nr. 455
From Tony Wood's list we can take out only the Bf-109 pilots claims (as Loftus mentioned that Harper engaged 6 Bf-109)
What about Birkner victory ? Could be a shared victory with Hartmann ?.
In romanian AA report was mentioned that 2 german fighters were pursued the diving Mustang and set him on fire.
As I read, Hans -Joachim Birkner (credited with 117 victories) was some times Hartman wingman. See the link.
http://www.luftwaffe.cz/birkner.html

Dan.
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