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Old 20th December 2018, 11:48
Laurent Rizzotti Laurent Rizzotti is offline
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Re: Obfw Robert Roller and Shoot Luke

The MACR is saying that this B-24 was flying a diversion mission. There was no raid on Germany by 8th Air Force that day, only B-26 attacks on French airfields, so I wonder if a diversion mission was launched and the main mission was cancelled.

It was usual for B-24 groups to fly diversion when B-17 attacked Germany. It was done for example on 20 October by 70 B-24s, and on the 10th by 39.

According to the diary of 322nd BS, 91st BG, an attack on Duren was planned on October 18, 1943, and ONE B-17 of this squadron took off but could not join the formation and the mission failed due to poor weather.
http://www.91stbombgroup.com/Dailies/322ndjan1943.html

Two aircraft of 401st BS, 91st BG did the same.
http://www.91stbombgroup.com/Dailies/401st1943.html

My guess will be that the plan on the 18th was more or less the same than on the 20th, when the B-17 force actually attacked Duren while the B-24 flew a diversion.

An interesting report is the mission report by 392nd BG, another B-24 unit that flew a diversion that day. You can see it there: https://www.b24.net/MM101843.htm. It says "Succeeded in flushing up fighters. Probably succeeded in keeping enemy aircraft in that general area." I don't know how that was determined, by radar, R/T interception or visual contact, but there is no German claim for US bombers that day.

I don't know who made the connection between Roller and the B-24 loss, but the claim by Roller was listed by Tony Wood like this:
18.10.43 Ofw. Robert Roller: 10 6./JG 3 Spitfire  UK-TK: 2.000 m. [Vouziers-Suippes] 13.26 Film C. 2031/II Anerk: Nr.34

It is NOT confirmed by the more recent JFV book by Prien, that gives the following information for JG 3 claims that day:
6./JG 3 Fw. Johannes Hoyer Spitfire (1) 13.26 PIQu. 05 Ost S / OG-3/6 2150 B

The more recent JFV book is more reliable than Tony Wood's files (that were written 10-15 years before, and use far fewer sources, especially hand written or faded victory lists with no first name, so involving a lot of guesses by Tony and people who helped him (like Jim Perry ... and me))

The only reason I can see to link both losses is the JG 3 claim at 1326 hrs while the MACR says the B-24 was last seen at 1325 hrs, but I am not even sure that Allied and German used the same time zone at this time.
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