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Old 19th April 2011, 02:08
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Re: Korea-MiG-15 and the other side of the history

10-November 30, 1951(Update)

I have mentioned at the end:

"The PLAAF had also had claimed a second F-86 damaged this day".

Well , that is confirmed if we check some comentaries of the day an the official text coming together with the Second Silver Star gived to Maj George Davis.

First, Mayor Winton Marshall with a short commentary about his victories:

"And I have been shot at myself 10-15 times, including once where the enemy pilot scored some really good hits and badly damaged my aircraft. And that was by a LaGG-9 propeller-driven aircraft!"

Ok, the ID of the enemy PLAAF attacking plane is not exactly right(actually a La-11), but is enough and clear: "a propeller-driven aircraft".

Now, a fragment from the citation coming with the Silver Star for Maj George Davis:

"...Despite the intense fire from the enemy bomber formation, he pressed home four more attacks with such effectiveness that he personally destroyed three enemy bombers. Major Davis was forced to withdraw after expending nearly all his ammunition and running critically low on fuel. While proceeding southward toward friendly territory, Major Davis heard a distress call from the element leader of his Flight. Although fully aware that he had less than the minimum amount of fuel remaining to insure safe return to a friendly base, Major Davis altered course 180 degrees and proceeded at full power to the location of the pilot. When he arrived he found his pilot's aircraft disabled by enemy fire and in imminent danger of being destroyed by MIG-15s, which were forming for a final attack on the damaged F-86. Major Davis immediately brought accurate fire on the enemy, destroyed one MIG-15, dispersed the remaining, forcing them to break off their attack. He escorted the disabled aircraft out of the danger zone, into friendly territory. When he finally landed, he had less than five gallons of fuel remaining..."

"Element leader" , "distress call of from the element leader of his flight", Marshall after the 23mm hits of Wang Tianbao La-11, loss conciencie, the plane go in spin ,however recovered just before hitting the water; and then he flight the badly damaged F-86 back to base. Any mention of a distress call or MiGs attacking him at this moment or shortly after.(X.Zhang)

And Korwald what say abouth this day?: silence....(Only a solitary Tigercat is listed this day)

Enough, and 100 % clear. At Nov 30, 1951, despite his losses of four Tu-2, 3 La-11 and one MiG, the PLAAF had his two F-86s damaged and can be full admitted(one by La-11 and one by MiG).

Maybe someday, apart the well known : "Bad day for the red commanders" we can finded in the books about the Korean Air War also this info included about the two F-86 damaged by the PLAAF the Nov 30, 1951(if the loss of "prestige" is too big saying all details, can be also accepted, a very very very small note of page all down)

Daniel

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