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Old 1st May 2011, 18:55
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Re: Korea-MiG-15 and the other side of the history

Thanks Joe.
The polemyc or controversy in not with the losses of the V-VS or PLAAF; both Air Forces had announced and admited the number of losses, allround of the 600 MiGs. The problem is the USAF, the numbers gived are still today, no realistic, few credibles and the availables sources dont help in this sense. The Navy there is more honest.
Is very difficult to accept for the V-VS for example, only 14 F-80s loss by MiGs and in the same time USAF announced 148 other losses in operational accidents.That is a lot of accidents. Or the Report Digest of 1953: 14 by MiGs, 113 by AAA, 16 unknown and "230 Others". "230 Others" is a hugue number.
Or the F-84: 18 by MiGs, 135 by AAA, 13 unknown and total losses 335!!. 169 F-84 Thunderjets losses in "Other causes" . Its a lot too.
Etc, etc for F-86, B-29, etc,etc.
Still today the RB-45 Tornado shot down by the MiGs in Dec 1950 is a point of discussion and not always acepted or admitted by the USAF.

Thatīs the point. No the MiG losses, but the USAF announced and published losses. Historical, they were always overclaims and propaganda in the Air War, but when several pilots had observed a enemy pilot ejecting or crashing and after the loss is not admitted, that dont help.

Daniel
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