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Old 12th August 2019, 14:38
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107 Wins for Normandy-Niemen in October 1944: Myth or Reality?

In recent years, in response to the Russian people's thirst for historical knowledge of WW2, the Ministry of Armies of the Russian Federation has begun digitizing and putting online its archives (Tsamo).
the phenomenal work finally makes it possible to approach the history of Normandy-Niemen under a real historian's approach.
Until now only a memory work was undertaken with all the inherent "scientific bias". Only the positive points, specific to the construction of Heroes were retained. the testimonies collected from the pilots only reinforcing this soil already too fertile, one is currently in a situation more romantic than historical.

It is difficult for one person to master perfectly the documents, French, Russian and German on all the protagonists involved in the Gumbinen offensive.
That's why a collective job, or all members would bring their knowledge would be incredibly effective.

The first of the works and list all the units of the Luftwaffe that could potentially meet the Normandy-Niemen during the month of October 1944.

I give you my list certainly incomplete, that luftwaffe specialists (that I am not) will correct.

10 / SG1 counting 21 Ju87 based in Shippenbeil.
10 (Pz) SG3 counts 12 Ju87 based in Hüttenfelde.
II / SG1 counting 39 FW190 based in Gerdauen.
I / SG4 with 26 FW 190 based in Insterburg.
IV / SG9 counting 10 Hs129 based in Shippenbeil.
13 / SG4 comtant 19 Hs129 based in Jurgenfeld.
Stab JG / 52 based in Jurgenfeld.
I / JG52 counting 33 Me 109 based in Ebenrode then Jurgenfeld.
III / JG52 counting 27 Me 109 based in Jurgenfeld then Lobellen.
I / JG51 counting 21 Me 109 based in Lobellen.
III / JG51 counting 25 Me 109 based in Pillau.
3 (F) AufKl.GR22: flying on Ju-188 based in Powunden.
2 (F) Aufkl. GR11: flying on Ju-88 based in Jesau
5 (F) AufKl.GR122: flying Ju-88 and Ju 188 based in Jesau.

This list covers all types of aircraft shot down by Normandy-Niemen but, there is an incredible defect in FW190.
The French declares having shooted 82! Whereas he was only fifty based in East Prussia.

Does anyone know if any of the JG54 elements that were in Lithuania intervened in East Prussia?
Was there any other unit flying on FW-190 that I forgot?

Thanks for your Help,

Fallowing Step : The maps (soviet, german gradnetz)

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