Re: German overclaims in the East. Hartmann and others...
Just checking Hartmann's claims on November 13, 1944... He claimed 4 Yak-9s this day SE of Budapest. From Soviet losses:
5 VA, 331 IAD, 179 IAP Yak-9T, S/N: 0215354, piloted by ml.lt Evgenii Ivanovich Teplishev was lost near Tápiószőlős at around 14:00, local time. This could be his 309th victory at Tápiógyörgye at around 14:15. (In battle 4 Yaks were covering 6 IL-2 Sturmoviks against 8 Bf 109s.)
5 VA, 13 GvIAD, 149 GvIAP Yak-1b, S/N: 11186, engine: 415-1670, piloted by gv.ml.lt Aleksandr Titovich Kotlyar was lost at Jászberény at around 3000 m between 13:55-14:50 local time. 8 (4 + 4) Yaks against 4 Fw 190s and 2 Bf 109s.
This could be his 311th victory at Tápiógyörgye at around 14:30 PM, at the altitude of 4000 m.
The other 4 soviet Yak losses this day (5 VA, 122. IAP: 1 Yak-9M, 150. GvIAP: 1 Yak-3 and 1 Yak-9D, 179. IAP: 1 Yak-9M) were far away both in time and space and/or matched other pilots' claims.
Again: MAX 50% accuracy in Hartmann's claims!
Gabor
PS: 5 VA also lost a Po-2 (S/N: 640808), a La-5FN (S/N: 41210201) and 4 IL-2 Sturmoviks (S/N: 1872913, 1873177, 10454, 9947) on November 13, 1944. The La-5FN and an IL-2 (S/N: 10454) plus probably 1-2 Yaks were destroyed by Hungarian Bf 109G fighters. The engine of the 177. GvIAP Lavochkin La-5FN (S/N: 8212559, recovered in 2007 at Újszász) is now on display in the Szolnok Aircraft Museum. The rest fell to Flak and other German pilot(s), eg. Düttmann.
Last edited by HGabor; 4th February 2014 at 01:39.
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