[paulmcmillan]

Martin

Thanks - I will try and trace a 13 OTU ORB.. However, I am hoping that Peter Cornwell will add to this thread to the source for the crew for L9181 in Battle of France Then and Now

Chorley Bomber Losses Vol 1 and Warners Blenheim only list Lindsay in the crew, Chorley adds that 'April 1940 Records of 57 Sqn were lost in France' and certainly there is no ORB listing for the month at National Archives

However, BoFtaN says crew were "F/O A C Stewart" and "Sgt C Simpson" who both baled out

OK so who was "Sgt C Simpson" - If you read the Appendices of 57 Sqn, on transfer to France in 1939 handwritten is the following name:

AC2 C E Simpson 613844 W/Op *

This is Clifford Edward Simpson. There is also a 'Sgt Simpson' listed undertaking various duty NCO roles at 57 Sqn. However no initials or Service Number provided. Anyone with a Service Number 613844 and a AC2 would not be a Sgt by Feb 1940 at this stage of the war. He would have probably enlisted last 1938/ early 1939. So I wonder if the "Sgt C Simpson" in BoFtaN should actually be "AC2 C E Simpson 613844" certainly the trade W/Op would fit - so I was hoping the source of the names in BoFtaN could be detailed

Simpson ended up commissioned as a P/O with a DFC at 10 Sqn in October 1942

PS AC2 C E Simpson 613844 W/Op * Actually the handwriting for the first initial could be C or L but I looked at Air 78 and found a match for 613844


PS Martin, For the Sgt, Greenleaf crew in ORB does it say "Sgt Simpson" or provide any initials

Paul