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Old 13th December 2020, 20:32
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Re: Loss(es) of Me 262 B-1a/U1 in March 1945

Hi Jim,

This a very interesting subject. It is known, that B&V Wenzendorf converted a total of 3 B-1a -airframes and DLH Staaken a total of 5 B-1a -airframes into B-1a/U1s. As to my best understanding, these completed Me262B-1a/U1 -airframes were as follows:

Code: - Red 8 (second)
W.Nr. - 110305
Converted by: - B&V Wenzendorf
Existence confirmed by: - Still in Museum at Johannesburg
Ferried to NJG 11: - 31.3.1945 (?)
Last confirmed date: - captured at Schleswig-Jägel on 6.5.1945
Known flights in flughbucher: - 7 by Altner
All clear.

Code: - Red 9 (some sources claim Red 6, but Altner's flugbuch entries leave no other a/c to be Red 9)
W.Nr. - 110306
Converted by: - B&V Wenzendorf
Existence confirmed by: - Post-War Photos
Ferried to NJG 11: - 24-26.3.1945 (not sure which of the days)
Last confirmed date: - captured at Schleswig-Jägel on 6.5.1945
Known flights in flughbucher: - 27 by Altner
All clear.

Code: - Red 4
W.Nr. - 110307
Converted by: - B&V Wenzendorf
Existence confirmed by: - Jurleit -book
Ferried to NJG 11: - 3.1945 (?)
Last confirmed date: - lost 3.1945
Known flights in flughbucher: - none
Delivery date not known.

Code: - Red 11
W.Nr. - 110378
Converted by: - DLH Staaken
Existence confirmed by: - loss list of flugplatz Lubeck-Blankensee, Me262 Production Log
Ferried to NJG 11: - 7.4.1945
Last confirmed date: - 13.4.1945 (100% destroyed in a bombing raid, by collapsed hangar)
Known flights in flughbucher: - the ferry flight between Staaken and Lubeck
All clear.

Code: - Red 10
W.Nr. - 110635
Converted by: - DLH Staaken
Existence confirmed by: - Post-War Photos, Me262 Production Log,
Ferried to NJG 11: - 30.3.1945
Last confirmed date: - captured at Schleswig-Jägel on 6.5.1945
Known flights in flughbucher: - 2 at DLH Staaken Werk
All clear.

Code: - Red 12 (first)
W.Nr. - 110636
Converted by: - DLH Staaken
Existence confirmed by: - flugbuch of Herbert Altner
Ferried to NJG 11: - 26.3.1945
Last confirmed date: - 27.3.1945 (Altner pulled the throttles down too fast and both engines flamed out. Plane stalled and crashed, radar/radio-operator was killed after hitting the vertical tail.)
Known flights in flughbucher: - 2 at DLH Staaken Werk + 21 by Altner
All clear.

Code: - Red 08 (first?)
W.Nr. - 110979
Converted by: - DLH Staaken
Existence confirmed by: test flights on 19.3, 23.3. and 24.3.1945
Ferried to NJG 11: - 26.3.1945 Altner and Lommatsch flew a Si204 into Staaken to ferry this a/c to Burg.
Last confirmed date: - 31.3.1945 (lost after this date)
Known flights in flughbucher: - 5 at DLH Staaken Werk
Lost before delivery to NJG11.

Code: - Red 12 (second)
W.Nr. - 111980
Converted by: - DLH Staaken
Existence confirmed by: Post-War Photos, Me262 Production Log, flugbuch of Herbert Altner
Ferried to NJG 11: - 15.4.1945
Last confirmed date: - captured at Schleswig-Jägel on 6.5.1945
Known flights in flughbucher: - 1 by Welter + 2 by Altner
All clear.

All corrections and additions are most welcome!

Best Regards,
Juha

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