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Old 11th April 2011, 16:16
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Re: Korea June 1953- 77 MiG x 1 F-86

Thanks Joe for the answer, as always very interesant to read all your post and comentaries.

About the possible victory of the June 4th, 1953. The info about the loss of the 51-2838 come from Korwald:

FU-838
Date of Loss: 530604
Tail Number: 51-2838
Aircraft Type: F-86E
Wing or Group: 51st Ftr-Int Gp
Squadron: 25th Ftr-Int Sq
Circumstances of Loss: Separated from flight in bad weather, no radio contact
Crewmembers Associated With This Loss
Name
(Last, First Middle) Rank Service Status Comments
KING, John E. Y. FLTLT RAF MIA

Here the date is different(Joe Bauguer page):

51-2838 (51st FIG, 25th FIS) MIA Jun 6, 1953

And Acid Org. say:

4-Jun-1953 PLAAF MiG-15 23/37mm F-86E John E. King 25 FIS, USAF.

Already is the only F-86 credited to the PLAAF for June in this site.René Francillon (After Russian sources)also credited one F-86 for the PLAAF in this month. Known dates for soviets claims for June were the 5th June(Berelidze one F-86), 7th June(two F-86 hits, defending in the Suiho attack, 51-2905 and 52-4384 ?) and 10th June(Fedorets, this one can be confirmed. This pilot landing with a piece of the left wing slat of the F-86).
Your note about the commentary of the SA-16 rescued crew , about the loss of 51-2762 of FlLt James A.Ryan,confirme as near sure the victory of Berelidze.
The mistery rest for the F-86 shot down by Fedorets the 10th June. As say before, Fedorets land his MiG taking with him at his MiG fuselage a piece of left wing slat of the F-86. If not was Coury's 52-4339, wich F-86 was this one, shot down by Fedorets?

Always in theme, June 1953. There also reports and photos of the F-86F-30 52-4425(8th FBW, 35th FBS)as damaged by MiG in this month(I dont know exactly tha date.Other sources speak of AAA).In the photo the plane had a hugue impact of 37mm or 23mm in the tail.


About F9F Panthers, I have some informations of a possible second F9F shot down by MiG:

The F9F-3 123030(US Boxer VF-24)In escort mission for a recce F2H-2P over Suiho, crashed and exploded on impact S of Wonsan on Green 3, pilot Lt Jack Griffth KIA, Jul 4, 1952.

After some sources, this plane was shot down by Kapitan Nikolay Petrovich Chistyakov of the 494th IAP.

A third, as you mentioned in the combate between MiGs of the V-VS and the Panthers of the VF-781, was damaged, but his pilot, Lt Royce Williams made a safe landing in the carrier.

Always in theme Jul 4, 1952 over Suiho, a F-80 was claimed also as shot down by the Capitán Piotr V. Minervin of the 148th GIAP.

Minervin had hit the F-80(actually, more possible was really a F-84)from 200-250m and had see the USAF plane diving out of control and impacting ground.

I have searched info about this possible loss but to this day I have nothing founded about them.

Regards

Daniel

PD: I have created a new post for November 1950 to discuss the theme.

Last edited by Daniel Nole; 11th April 2011 at 19:00.
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