[Johannes]

Hi Guys

If you drop me a personal e.mail I'll send you my lists of top aces. Düttmann's has the best details i.e crash-sites throughtout, Barkhorn's, Hartmann's lake times/places for 1945. I always thought that Woidich's eighty-two looked honest, same with Rall, Robert Weiss, Borchers and Trenkel.

I did find 362 claims by pilots for 5th July 1943(Kursk), think that flak takes it up to the often quoted figure of 480, is won't help with individuals, but knowing the losses would indicate the extent of the overclaiming!

Regards

Johannes

P.S Lipfert's honesty enforces my belief that you can usually tell a fraudster by the pattern of his claiming....always thought he was one of the good guys.