[HGabor]

Folks,

This is so far. As you see, Lipfert is not even on the same page with Hartmann... I am sure Lipfert IN REAL(!) downed a lot more planes than Hartmann... Compared to Lipfert, now I cannot take Hartmann's claims seriously. I think many books should be re-written, Wikipedia updated, etc.... Keep working...


No.: …. Reported AC: …. Date: ………. Real victim:

146 …. Yak-11 …. 17.10.44. ………. Yak-1B, 5 VA, 6 GvIAD, 73 GvIAP, l-t Malyavin KIA
147 …. La-5 …. 21.10.44. ………. La-5F, 5 VA, 279 IAD, 192 IAP, ml.l-t Sukovyants, OK
148 …. IL-2 …. 23.10.44. ………. IL-2, 5 VA, 7 GvShAD, 131 GvShAP, Kralkin killed - Babailov killed
149 …. IL-2 …. 23.10.44. ………. IL-2, 5 VA, 7 GvShAD, 131 GvShAP, Lapinski POW - Filippov MIA
150 …. Yak-7 …. 24.10.44. ………. Yak-9T, 5 VA, 13 GvIAD, 150 GvIAP, gv.ml.l-t Sisko, POW
151 …. IL-2 …. 27.10.44. ………. Unsure, probably one of 5 VA, 207 ORAP IL-2KR losses
152 …. Yak-7 …. 27.10.44. ………. Found no such permanent loss, - probably damaged
153 …. Yak-9 …. 13.11.44. ………. Yak-1B, 5 VA, 13 GvIAD, 149 GvIAP, Stepanov, pilot returned, plane repaired and returned in service
154 …. Yak-11 …. 16.11.44. ………. Yak-1B, 5 VA, 331 IAD, 122 IAP, Capt. Artemev KIA
155 …. IL-2 …. 17.11.44. ………. IL-2, 5 VA, 4 GvShAD, 90 GvShAP, Kurilov KIA - Ananev
156 …. IL-2 …. 17.11.44. ………. IL-2, 5 VA, 4 GvShAD, 90 GvShAP, Ivlev WIA - Petrunin WIA
157 …. Yak-7 …. 17.11.44. ………. Yak-1B, 5 VA, 13 GvIAD, 151 GvIAP, gv.ml.l-t Noskov, MIA
158 …. Yak-9 …. 23.11.44. ………. Yak-1B, 5 VA, 331 IAD, 513 IAP, Kuyanov, KIA

(Sorry about formatting. Please note: my comment is only for Hungary. I have only very limited records for other countries, mainly for 1945.)