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Old 2nd April 2020, 19:06
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Photo Pfalz E Type

Hello,


Currently on ebay is a photo of a Pfalz E.II at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/Foto-Einsitz...AAAOSwqiRecgQe


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Old 10th May 2020, 13:42
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Re: Photo Pfalz E Type

Hello,


Currently on ebay are a series of photos of the Pfalz E.I at:


https://www.ebay.de/itm/X4343-Foto-W...gAAOSw249et9bV


https://www.ebay.de/itm/X4348-Foto-W...4AAOSwow5et9hN


https://www.ebay.de/itm/X4342-Foto-W...IAAOSwf1Ret9Xg


The seller has FFA 54 as the unit, which may be the case or not, but an Oblt Weber is referenced on the back of the photos.Can anyone read the location given?


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Old 10th May 2020, 14:28
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Re: Photo Pfalz E Type

Hi Clint


The seller has FFA 54 as the unit, which may be the case or not,

I think so ; we have a "54" on left arm of the crew (1st link)

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Old 10th May 2020, 14:39
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Re: Photo Pfalz E Type

Hello Bertrand,


Thanks I missed that. Too busy trying to read the back of the card and not paying any attention to the photo!


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Old 10th September 2024, 21:16
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Re: Photo Pfalz E Type

Hello,


Currently on ebay are a couple of photos of Pfalz E.I 479/15

https://www.ebay.de/itm/405201142343...MAAOSwGnBm0wBA


https://www.ebay.de/itm/405221727596...p9RjWu4E%252Bn



Has anyone a unit for Patermann? It is not Jasta 4. Was he perhaps with FFA 51 ?



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Old 11th September 2024, 09:32
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Re: Photo Pfalz E Type

There was a Linus Patermann with Jasta 4 according to the book Jasta Pilots.
He is listed as arriving in 1916 and KIA 12 July 1917

His rank was Vfw which does not fit with the Uffz statement on the photo.
Pity we only get day and month but no year.

I have no idea of course if this is the same Patermann and what he did before going to Jasta 4

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Old 11th September 2024, 10:21
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Re: Photo Pfalz E Type

Hi Stig,


Thanks for the reply. I think that the seller also saw the name and looked at Jasta pilots. Could well be the same guy. I'm not seeing the rank as a problem as promotion from Uffz to Vfw between when this photo taken with Pfalz E.I and his death in 1917 likely.


As you know Jasta 4 a western front unit,whereas the sellers other photos are from the eastern front. You've probably also seen http://www.frontflieger.de/3_313844_t.html


It would still be very useful to know what Linus Patermann did before joining Jasta 4 as I suppose we can't rule out E.I 479/15 being with another eastern front unit.


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Old 11th September 2024, 16:19
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Re: Photo Pfalz E Type

To be honest I have not yet studied the site you refer to.

But I find no problem with FFA 51 using Pfalz fighter in 1915-16. The problem is that the FFA units
are not very well researched and the number of its known pilots are very limited.

Same Guy? Could well be.

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