A ?? RE: ONE NVAF vic during Rolling Thunder;

[NickM]

Guys:

I was re-reading Marshall Michel's 'Clashes' my favorite book about the Air-to-Air War over North Vietnam & I came across an interesting entry RE: The NVAF...Michel noted that during 'Rolling Thunder' the NVAF scored many vics but nearly all were when the pilots either were in a 'neutral' position or they had been guided to a position of initial advantage by their ground control before they engaged; Michel did mention ONE vic where the NVAF pilot found himself in a disadvantageous position but was able to get the better of his attacker & shoot him down;

I was curious if anybody here might know this particular vic? Date of engagements & the pilots/planes in question;

Thanks ahead of time;

nm