Lost Internet source

[Laurent Rizzotti]

Some times ago, I had found on the Net a site giving access to list of USAAF losses. Each was coded with something similar to 44-10-01-23, the three first fields being the date, and the next being a sequence number for each day. Then was listed the loss place, and then the whole list of casualties.

Sadly I can't find it in my bookmarks anymore. And I have no more success using Google.

Does it ring a bell to someone ?

Thanks you

[brewerjerry]

Hi
Is this the one ?
cheers
Jerry

http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/s...y/Oct1944O.htm


http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/src/AFrptsMO.htm

[Laurent Rizzotti]

Hi Jerry,

I know this site and while finding it very useful, it is not the one I am searching.

From what I remember, it is a catalog of some (USAAF?) archive service, and the description of each file list briefly all accident reports within, with the list of crew attached.

[Alex Smart]

Hello Laurent,
Try this one
http://usaafdata.com/

Alex

[Luc Vervoort]

Hi Laurent,

http://airforcehistoryindex.org/

is this the one ?

best regards

Luc

[Laurent Rizzotti]

Yes,

Luc, thanks a million

Go on the website given by Luc and search "AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT AND INCIDENT REPORTS".

Sadly I was looking for 1945 reports and it seems to me they are not online

[Luc Vervoort]

Hi Laurent,

Details about 1945 are included. It is not always easy to find the correct file. It is possible to make a search on a name.

Good Hunting !

Luc

[mhuxt]

Originally Posted by Luc Vervoort

http://airforcehistoryindex.org/

[Laurent Rizzotti]

Originally Posted by Luc Vervoort

Hi Laurent,

Details about 1945 are included. It is not always easy to find the correct file. It is possible to make a search on a name.

Good Hunting !

Luc

I had allready tried to find the names of both known killed, pilot and copilot (name of passenger is not sure). Neither returns the good date. I have also tried nearby writings (for exemple, for pilot engle and engel).

The accident list is the 877 serie. The first file, number 001, starts on 22 July 1941. The last file in this serie is the 406, ending on 21 December 1944. For all files before that, there is a note that the list is continued on N+1 file, not in this one.

What is confusing is that up to 30 June 1944, the code for "accident card" will be 44-6-30-xxx, but on 1 July 1944, the code changed and became 45-7-1-xxx. Notice the year change (this is file 338). But these losses occured in fact in 1944, as you will find by checking any of them.

I have searched for several hours now, but have found no way to find any of the 1945 cases I was searching.

[Frank Olynyk]

Laurent,
The year refers to the US government fiscal year, which at that point in time started on July 1, year x, and went to June 30, year x+1. Many years ago the US government moved its fiscal year to start on October 1, and run to Sept 30. I think the reason given at the time was to give Congress more time to work up a budget. Given that we still don't have a fiscal 2011 budget, and the current budgetary resolution expires on Friday March 4, it wouldn't surprise me if someone gets the brilliant idea of moving the fiscal year to start on Jan 1!

EnjoY!

Frank.