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Old 9th December 2013, 07:04
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Steinhoff - Romanian Bf 109

Hello.
Can you help me?
Obst. Johannes Steinhoff in his book Ve letzter Stunde has described, that on September 25th 1944 had shot down Romanian Bf109 above Klausenburg (Cluj).
Do you know whether Romanians have already lost any Bf 109 this day?


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Old 9th December 2013, 09:02
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Re: Steinhoff - Romanian Bf 109

From what I have there are 5 IAR-80's downed in that day in the vicinity of Cluj, 1 downed by AA fire and 4 who were downed in battle with LW Bf109's, no romanian Bf 109 though
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Old 9th December 2013, 14:46
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Re: Steinhoff - Romanian Bf 109


Thank you very much
Do You know name of the unit and pilots ?

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Old 9th December 2013, 19:07
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Re: Steinhoff - Romanian Bf 109

Hello Marek, here they are, if you need any help with this data let me know.

You're welcome !

Date Group Sq Type SN Location Pilot Cause

25.09.1944 Gr. 2 Vt. Esc. 65 Vt. IAR 80 406 Turda Slt. Av. Secicar Franz Doborat in lupta cu Bf 109 germane
25.09.1944 Gr. 2 Vt. Esc. 65 Vt. IAR 80 409 Turda Lt. Av. Ivancievici Ion Doborat in lupta cu Bf 109 germane
25.09.1944 Gr. 2 Vt. Esc. 65 Vt. IAR 80 370 Com. Mihai Viteazu Adj. Sef Av. Andone Stavarache Doborat de Bf 109 germane
25.09.1944 Gr. 2 Vt. IAR 80 422 Turda Adj. Av. Georgescu Doborat in lupta cu Bf 109 germane
25.09.1944 Flot. 2 Vt. IAR 80 142 Turda Adj. Av. Mazilu Mircea Doborat de AA

Later edit: Just looked the date up in another book and found one romanian Bf109 G-6 Wnr. 165662 flown by Cpt. Av. Toma Lucian downed in the Jibou area while engaging a Ju 188 (?) which also crashed.
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Old 15th December 2013, 21:22
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Re: Steinhoff - Romanian Bf 109

Thank you very much.
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