ID help please

[JG53_Volto]

Hi all,
pls someone could Id this plane?
THX

[Falcon]

Bf 109 G-6 WNr. 162110
Source Stammkennzeichen.de
RW+FG
"gelbe 11" / "yellow 11"
3./NAGr 12 1944

Give us the information where you found this part please.

[JG53_Volto]

THANK YOU!!!

[Merlin]

The aircraft was correctly identified by Falcon but unfortunately the unit is wrong: 3./JG 77 "yellow 11", shot down by Allied fighters on 8.Feb.44 near Verona, Uffz. Helmut Jalmfeld save.

[Falcon]

Thx Merlin, I'll let recheck this on Stammkennzeichen.de by Sven.

[JG53_Volto]

Originally Posted by Merlin

The aircraft was correctly identified by Falcon but unfortunately the unit is wrong: 3./JG 77 "yellow 11", shot down by Allied fighters on 8.Feb.44 near Verona, Uffz. Helmut Jalmfeld save.

THX Merlin..I'm sending a PM to you..

[veltro]

Many thanks for the very interesting and important info, Merlin.

At the risk of appearing naive, may I ask the source?

[Merlin]

Basic information from the Jochen Prien book on JG 77 and expanded by informations from an ULTRA message.

[JG53_Volto]

Clearly visible a W black,after defolding the part..

[veltro]

Originally Posted by Merlin

Basic information from the Jochen Prien book on JG 77 and expanded by informations from an ULTRA message.

Many thanks Merlin for the kind reply.

I was in fact intrigued since the third volume of Prien's work on the JG 77 does not report any data on the other two losses occurred in combat on 08.02.1944 besides that of Fw. Krueger, so I had to guess there was clearly more somewhere else...

Your highlight to an ULTRA source shed light on the matter.

BTW, I guess that the ULTRA was at Kew's National Archives... is there any archival reference? Thanks again