TGr.30 loss from 11.Oct. 1944

[JoMe]

Hi all

In the night of 10/11. Oct. In 1944 the He 111 / S3 + IL of 3./TGr.30 was lost (see FB page Gutmann).
Can someone give me more details about this loss (WNr., Loss location -Stassel ...?).
I only have copies of flights 1233-1483 (pp. 60-72) from FB Gutmann, can someone provide me with additional pages of this flight log (in exchange for other flight logs)?
From page 63 I am missing the right side part with the comments, can someone help me?

Thanks for looking
JoMe

[RT]

Laut NVM;

10 10 44 3 TGr,30 F Göttingen 14 km west, FTausfall Brennst.Mangel HE111H 700719 S3+IL 100 700716 veränd, Versorg, Kanal Festungen
Bentz fritz uffz bd v-le FSA 215515/34
Gutmann karl fw f v-le FSA FFS AB Nürnberg/243
Hoffmann hans uffz b v-sw K FSA 62695/579
Kowall fw v-le FSA
Zdarski uffz v-le FSA

I don't hv the other pages of the Gutmann's log
Rémi

[RT]

For the lowest line, Absprung b. Kassel , with a date it would help ..
Rémi

[John Manrho]

That remark belongs to the line above of 10.10.1944

[Jim P.]

Rémi, could you kindly enlighten us as to what some of your abbreviations mean? Specifically for your comments 'bd v-le', 'f v-le' & 'b v-sw K'. Thank you. jlp

[RT]

All is concerning the crew


le-v sw-v Leicht+Schwer verletzt

b/Beobachter f/Fz-Führer, bd/Bord..something , someone here could help pls ?

K i hv to check on the NVM,



Rémi

[JoMe]

Hi Remi

Sorry, there is no date on the last position, also in the first position.
Thank you very much, your post was very helpful.

best wishes
JoMe

[cproyston]

Originally Posted by RT

bd/Bord..something , someone here could help pls ?

bd = Bordfunker = radio operator

[RT]

K is about the type of wound ..
Regarding the date of the line 1483, it could be quite later , but before the 17.th of november , date of entry of american troops in Diedenhofen/Thionville , what is a bit strange also are those flights in ocotber from Diedenhofen/Thionville, which was besieged since august
Regarding this line it's puzzling ,because Absprung seems to mean that he/they used their chute, but plane landed at airplace ...


Rémi

[Jim P.]

Thanks. jlp