Adolf Galland's score ?

[Alex Smart]

Hi,

Adolph Gallands Score

74 - 7th Aug 41 - Lumbres -11.23hrs - Squadron/Pilot?
75 - 7th Aug 41 - 10Km NW St.Omer - 17.40hrs - Squadrn/Pilot?
76 - 9th Aug 41 - NW. St.Pol - 11.32hrs - Squadron/Pilot
?? - 9th Aug 41 - N.Ardres - 17.41hrs - Squadron/Pilot ? -Unconfirmed.
?? - 9th Aug 41 - N. Ardres, 5000m - 17.44hrs - 452Sqdn/Pilot ?
77 -12th Aug 41 - 20/25km w.Vissinghem 200m - 13.12hrs -19Sqdn P7693
78 - 12th Aug 41 - Scholdenum/ W.Haamstede - 13.18hrs - Blenheim
79 - 19th Aug 41 - Bergues - 11.55hrs -Squadron/Pilot ?
80 - 19th Aug 41 - NW. St Omer - 19.32hrs 111Sqdn/Pilot?

Any idea as to the Squadrons or Pilots involved in these few of Galland's victories?

What of those "extra" ones claimed but not counted (?) between the 76th on the 9th Aug and the 77th on the 12th ? who and what were they ? Why were they not included ?

Alex

[Hans Nauta]

Hi Alex,

His Blenheim claim on 12th August 1941 concerned V6261 XD-M of 139 Squadron.

Best regards,
Hans Nauta

[alessandro bray]

Hi,
in the combat on 9.8.41 against Circus 68 around Gosnay (St Omer area), JG 26 claimed 6 Spitfire between 11,25-11,45, including Galland 76. victory.
British losses were:
452 Sqn 3 Spitire II (PO O byrne, sgt Haydon, sgt Chapman)
616 Sqn 1 Spitfire
603 Sqn 1 Spitfire damaged
Tangmere Wing 1 Spitfire (Wing Comm. Bader)
so Galland victory should be one of these.

the victories claimed in the afternoon can be the same one:
Spitfire N. Ardeas 5000m 17,44 VNE:ASM and maybe never confirmed.
(the other Spitfire N.Ardes 17,41 appears only in Caldwell's book, maybe he has a better explaination)

regards
Alessandro

[rob van den nieuwendijk]

Hi,

Abschussmeldungen of Galland can be found at RL 10/260 Abschussmeldungen I./JG 26 (BAMA/Freiburg).

On 12 Aug 41 Stab JG 26 Galland claimed a Blenheim 20km west of Flushing/Holland. The Meldung states victory number 77.

The Spitfire claim on 12 Aug 41 states victorynumber 76 first, which was changed later into 78.

Regards
Rob

[Franek Grabowski]

Rob
Do the reports contain detailed narratives or are they inquiry questionarries only?

[rob van den nieuwendijk]

Franek,

These Meldungen contain both the questions and a narrative of the air combats -

Regards
Rob

[Franek Grabowski]

Thanks Rob
I see I have to order the file. I hope it will be not too expensive. Do you know the period covered and completness?
Best wishes

[rob van den nieuwendijk]

Franek,

Sorry, I cannot remember - I only ordered the Abschussmeldungen regarding 12 Aug 41 over 15 years ago when I saw this file. Cannot remember now the covered period and completness regarding the other Meldungen -

perhaps somebody else has more knowledge of the contents of this file (e.g. Donald Caldwell or Dr Jochen Prien).

Regards
Rob

[Franek Grabowski]

Rob, I am sending you a PM.

[Alex Smart]

Hi,

Many thanks for replying.

The claims of Galland for the 9th August are the ones I am interested in.
As can be seen, his 76th claim was in the am .

Then there are two claims in the pm, one at 17.41 unconfirmed and another at 17.44 said to have been a 452 Sqdn Spitfire.

Yet his 77th claim was not until the 12th August a Spitfire P7693 of 19 Sqdn in which P/O/ Calvert was killed.
And his 78th claim the Blenheim that Hans Nauta has noted above V6261 "XD-M" of 139 Sqdn.

Just what and who were the two unnumbered claims on the 9th August.

Could one of them have been Bader after all ?

Alex