British aircraft losses with Luftwaffe

[Stig Jarlevik]

Hi Guys

Has anyone anything on lost British aircraft serving with the Luftwaffe from 1940 to 1945?

Since they were 2nd line items I would be interested in knowing if NVM or GQM has anything to say.

Cheers
Stig

[Larry]

Stig are you after details of lost British made aircraft or do you mean captured / lost RAF aircraft and British civilian aircraft?

[Jim P.]

From losses (various sources):

DH 60G, 5040, n.n., , I., I., NJG 1, , , , , 15-Apr-42, Taxiing accident., , Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Nachtjagd, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #5)-Vol.8; Balss, Deutsche Nachtjagd, II, p.65, , Fl.Pl. Venlo, 70%, H, , ,
DH Gypsy Moth, , Schuster, Fw. Eugen, , II., 5., JG 51, , , , , 24-Jun-40, Injured in crash during transfer flight from Desvres to Bönninghardt., , Lfl.2/Westfeldzug, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #1)-Vol.2; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, III, p.285, , Devres-Bönninghardt, 100%, H, , ,
Gloster, 45826, Weiss, Uffz. Herbert, , , , Erg.Gr.(S) 1, , , , , 27-Apr-43, Injured in Notlandung due to engine trouble., , Transportverbände/Deutschland, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #9)-Vol.16, , bei Babenhausen, 35%, H, , ,
Gloster 5, 45717, Hüther, Ofw., , , , Erg.Gr.(S) 1, , , , , 18-Mar-43, Killed in crash., , Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Deutschland, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #9)-Vol.15, , bei Langendiebach, 100%, H, , ,
Gloster 9, 45710, Fecher, Ofw. Karl, , , , Fliegersch. d.Lw.(S) 1, , , , , 13-Jun-42, Injured in Notlandung due to engine trouble., , Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Deutschland, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/773, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.17; BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/782, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.237, , bei Zellhausen, 80%, H, , ,
Gloster G 5, 45829, n.n., , , , Fliegersch. d.Lw.(S) 1, , , , , 16-Apr-42, Notlandung due to engine trouble., , Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Deutschland, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/772, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.119; BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/782, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.177, , Lichtenfeld, 45%, H, , ,
Hurricane, 2545, n.n., , , , Überführ.Kdo./Lz.Gr. 3, , , , , 29-Apr-43, Notlandung due to technical failure., , Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Deutschland, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/775, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.87; BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/783, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.260, , Johannisthal, 30%, H, , ,
Hurricane, 2683, n.n., , , , Jagdleher Überprüf.Gr., , , , , 05-Aug-43, Notlandung due to engine trouble., , Lfl.3/FR, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/776, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.72; BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/783, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.91, , Fl.Pl. Orleans-Bricy, 25%, H, , ,
Spitfire, , n.n., , , , Jagdfl.Sch. 6, , , , , 04-Mar-43, Bruchlandung due to pilot error., , Lw.Bfh.Mitte/Deutschland, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/774, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.183; BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/783, Flzg.Unfälle bei Schulen und usw., p.358, , Fl.Pl. Lachen-Speyerdorf, 25%, H, , ,
Spitfire, 830, n.n., , , , Fa.Daimler-Benz, , , , , 27-Apr-44, Technical failure., , Lfl.Reich, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.14, , Fl.Pl. Echterdingen, 10%, H, , ,
Spitfire, 0830, ./., , , , Daimler-Benz A.G., , , , , 14-Aug-44, Bombenwurf., , Lfl.10, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/780, Flzg.Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.121, , Fl.Pl. Echterdingen, 100%, H, , ,
Typhon, , ./., , , , Versuchsverb.Ob.d.L., , , , , 24-May-44, Bombenwurf., , Lfl.Reich, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/779, Flzg.Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.57, , Fl.Pl. Orly, 100%, H, , ,
Typhon, 0956, n.n., , , , Ver.Verb.O.K.L., , , , , 10-Aug-44, Notlandung due to engine trouble. Overturned., , Lfl.10, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/780, Flzg.Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.91, , Meckelfeld bei Harburg, 50%, H, , ,
Typhon (Beute-Flzg.), 0549, Gold, Fw. Herbert, , , , Vers.Verb.O.K.L., , , , , 29-Jul-44, Killed in crash., , Lfl.10, BA-MA Signatur RL 2 III/780, Flzg.Unfälle und Verluste bei Schulen und usw., p.40, , Fl.Pl. Reinsehlen, 100%, H, , ,

[Stig Jarlevik]

Well Larry

A bit hard to state that exactly.
After a bit of thinking, I would settle for captured British aircraft built under non-combat specifications (including impressed civil ones from conquered areas).

Jim
Thanks a lot for your list. Got in fact a bit more than I was bargaining for, my fault, but I must say it produced three answers I had not expected and that was two Hurricanes and one Spitfire being in use in other units than pure test and evaluation.

If anyone else can come up with more aircraft such as De Havilland types (no Mosquito....) I would be most happy.

Cheers
Stig

[Observer1940]

Hello Stig, Larry and Jim

AIR 25/250 ORB (14 Group) at TNA, Kew, on 25.11.40 states:-

"On a previous occasion a Whitley was intercepted near Sumburgh on 13.6.40 and allowed to proceed because it had British Markings, but it was afterwards found to be in enemy hands."

This obviously came out in the Inquiry for the friendly fire incident when a Whitley engine was shot up by RAF fighters and our Whitley was forced to make a "crash landing on Wick aerodrome." on 25.11.40, as the earlier 13th June 1940 Sumburgh incident is in the same paragraph.

Mark

[Larry]

And how many flying Whitleys did the Luftwaffe actually have? None I think, though at least one was recovered intact from the sea.