Adolf Gallands FS with wing guns 1941

any info on adolf Gallands F models with wing guns he fitted in 1941, i know he claimed 2 vics> but what happened then why didnt the air min, approve"" this id say he was a brill thinker.
as i know v molders" liked just 3 guns but he was a exspert marksmen.
i myself liked the single cannon,and two wing guns.
if i was a pilot .
any info why Gallands ideas were dumb founded by the higher command.
GARY.

[George Hopp]

The wing of the 109F was actually weaker than that of the 109E, in that the ribs were placed further apart and the stress was supposed to be taken up by the skin which I thought had been thickened (but this could be wrong), and Mtt must have pooped bricks when he saw guns installed within the wing of the 109F. In fact, the wings on the standard 109F began to buckle in service, and they needed to be reinforced. See Caldwell's book on JG 26. The Spaniards would mount guns in the wings after the war, but only with lots of reinforcing of the area.

So, that's why the RLM never followed up on the guns in the wing idea of Galland. Galland, by the way, was an advocate of lots of bullets in the air to ensure something hit the target. 3 guns was considered to be pretty pathetic, especially when compared to the large number of guns on most Allied a/c, and it wasn't that great against bombers either. The crews of those bombers fearing the firepower of the 190 far more that that of the standard 109.

Regarding the RLM not OKing those 2 victories of his, perhaps someone else can respond to that.

HI> Georg. many thanks as to the 2 vics, GALLAND" said so.as i read.his book .and a site on Google too.
by that time later on he was to be in charge of molders.nov 41 command.so 2 vics.theres a gun camera footage too.
ive seen as 5 vapors coming from his guns at spitfire5s.and he was climbin out of his cockpit on landing.maybe who knows.
thanks for info ..
GARY

[Peglar]

Hello, inside a Foto of Galland and his "Waffenjodler" Olemotz (left). Greetings Peglar

Originally Posted by Peglar

Hello, inside a Foto of Galland and his "Waffenjodler" Olemotz (left). Greetings Peglar

Dank fine photo your a star.
AND A HERO .
GARY

[Kutscha]

George, did the G and K models get their wings beefed up?

[George Hopp]

Yes, a report on the further development of the 109, of October 1942, notes that the 109 G-1 has a strengthened wing and mentions something about the skinning but I cannot read the actual words associated with it. If someone has a clean copy of this extract, I would appreciate getting the wording.
Thanks,
George

[Kutscha]

Thanks George.

Did the K-6 get further strengthening with the wing mounted cannons or were the wings strong enough already?

[George Hopp]

I'm sorry, but I have no data on the wing strength of the K-6.
All the best,
George

[RolandF]

Originally Posted by George Hopp

Yes, a report on the further development of the 109, of October 1942, notes that the 109 G-1 has a strengthened wing and mentions something about the skinning but I cannot read the actual words associated with it. If someone has a clean copy of this extract, I would appreciate getting the wording.
Thanks,
George

"Weiterentwickung von Bf 109 - Motor DB 605 statt DB 601
Druckkabine; verstärkter Flügel ...om Rippen Beplankung) rollengelagerter Vorflügel
elt. Wendekorizont, grundsätzlich mit Leitungsverlegungen für GM 1 Anlage im Flügel und
Leitungen sowie Beschläge für Reichweiten- u. Abwurfwaffenanlage ... Flügelgondelbewaffnung,
Wasser- u. Ölkühlerautomatik, Ölbehälter auf 36l vergrößert Rückenpanzerung u. Kopfschutz, Kühlerpanzerung und Leichtmetallpanzerung"

that´s what I am able to read. The reinforced wing was achieved within spars and skin according to this statements.

Regards

Roland