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Old 2nd February 2008, 01:15
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Old 2nd February 2008, 16:01
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Re: Photos 2-1

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Hi,
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I believe the Skua is L2963 from 803. Sq Fleet Air Arm which crashed at Froesetskjaeret, Byneset, in connection with the less successful attack on Scharnhorst and Gneisenau (which had already sailed) at Trondheim.

The attack is mentioned in Aeroplane December 2007 in the "Blackburn Skua & Roc Data Base" article. A more in depth article on this particular June 13, 1940, attack can be found in Aeroplane August 2007

More photos and info here:

http://ktsorens.tihlde.org/flyvrak/frosetskjaeret.html

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Another photo of this aircraft showing the engine cowling as well, indicates it is an aircraft of I./JG 53 as the "Ace of Spades" emblem on the engine cowling is clearly visible.

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The above are not "Stukageschwader 2 Immelmann" Bf 109 Es of course, as it is JG 1.
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Old 2nd February 2008, 16:59
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Re: Photos 2-1

Hi Goran,

the number 2 is high likely from the ErgGr/JG53 in 1941.

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Old 2nd February 2008, 17:57
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Hi Goran,

the number 2 is high likely from the ErgGr/JG53 in 1941.

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Thanks Robert! Interesting. May I ask what source or reference you build on?

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Old 2nd February 2008, 18:04
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Re: Photos 2-1

Hi,

note the camouflage it`s pointing for late 1940 or early 1941 and it`s not typical for the I/JG53 in this period. The 2/JG53 in late 1940 had transparent numbers or the shape of the number was considerable smaller than this one.
Beside this I saw a bunch of photos in one private collection taken by the I/JG53 in late 1940 and the fighters had no JG53 emblem.

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Old 3rd February 2008, 10:59
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Re: Photos 2-1

Thanks Robert!
By the way, the photo of this ac with the nose uncovered shows a yellow cowling with the unit emblem imposed.

Looking for ErgGr/JG 53 I found a photo captioned as "...3./ErgJGr Süd in March 1942..." showing a Bf 109 E with Yellow nose and "The Ace of Spades" emblem on the engine cower
Ref. Carlsen and Meyer, "Die Flugzeugführer Ausbildung der Deutschen Luftwaffe 1935-1945 Band II", P.210

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Old 3rd February 2008, 12:28
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Hi Goran,

some time ago (November 2007) there was a group of photos from this unit showing beside the black 2 also black 4, 5 and 10.

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