Help with Tunisian grid reference please

[Ben...]

Hi

I have a grid reference, QU 2953 but i'm having trouble finding it using the luftwaffe Gradnetz system.

I know it is for late December 1942 and is from 5.(pz)/Sch.G.1 who were operating around the El Aouina, Tunisia area. I believe QU 2953 isn't a complete code but can the area mentioned help with the missing details?

If any of you can help with completing the missing sections of the grid referance i would be very pleased. The more i try to read descriptions of how the codes work, the more i confuse myself!

Many Thanks in advance

Ben

[Nick Beale]

I can't locate the place for you but I don't think there's anything wrong with the reference you have, it just doesn't use the later fighter grid - that wasn't introduced until 1 June 1943.

The "QU" bit isn't the square between "QT" and "QV" (as it would be in the later system), rather it stands for "Quadrat" or grid square.

[FrankieS]

http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...0pBa#map1-link

[Andreas Brekken]

Hi

I see that FrankieS probably have been using my website, and added the 03 Ost prefix which would seem to be correct, the 13 Ost also being quite probable as the location given for the target for the operation would be in 13 Ost.

However, in my opinion the grid given should be checked again (what is the source for it anyway? Loss record, KTB?), as both the proposed prefixes would make this aircraft firmly plunging into the Mediterrenean sea, quite a bit north of the proposed operation area.

Best regards,
Andreas B

[FrankieS]

Hi Andreas !

... used my LUMA, by the way ... ;-)

bye to Norway

[Andreas Brekken]

Hehe... should have thought as much...

Regards,
Andreas B

[Ben...]

Thanks guys

It is from a loss report and shouldn't be in the Med, i'll do some checking.

I kept getting the med position which is one of the reasons i thought i was doing something wrong.

Thanks

Ben

[Ben...]

I've checked and the area is descibed as 25km south-west of pont-du-fahs and should be 40-50km behind the front lines.

could grid Qu 2953 have been miss read? and would another similar one fit the bill?

Thanks

Ben

[FrankieS]

Hi Ben !

A point 25km south-west of pont-du-fahs
would have the following Gradnetz-Meldeverfahren
designation:

03 Ost 97823 lo

Would it be possible that Qu 2953 is based on a
different map system (maybe Wehrmacht) ?

bye,
FrankieS

[Ben...]

I had assumed that as the loss was of an aircraft the grid would be luftwaffe !

do you know where can i check to see if it is from a differant system?

Ben