Kurt Heinz V/K.G.2

[advsmt]

Hoping someone may be able to give me some more info on Kurt Heintz (DKiG & RK). Gruppenkommandeur of V./K.G.2. Died in a crash at Lydd ranges in '44. Was he flying an Me410? (unit codes?), was he shot down in air combat, flak or other cause? Also any other unit he was in and mission total.

Thanks for your time and consideration.

[DDT]

Good Evening,

This is what I found in Ulf Balke's book: "Der Luftkrieg in Europa 1941-1945":

(FF) Hptm. Kurt HEINTZ - kia -
(BF) StabsFw. Otto RUNGE - kia -
(410A-1,U5+WJ)(103313)
Combat with F/Lt. Luma of No.488 Sq. - crashed Lydd Ranges, Kent.
Runge was also wearing the DkiG.

Kind regards,

Dirk

[advsmt]

Dirk,

Many thanks for the information.

Bryan

[Melvin Brownless]

Hi, There is a loss page on our website relating to Kurt & Otto, go to 1944 losses Luftwaffe.

Kind regards,

Melvin

www.aircrewremembrancesociety.com

[mhuxt]

Lou Luma was with 418 Squadron, not 488, and his claim that evening was near the Steinhuder Meer.

[Doug Stankey]

Here is what we have in our files about this fellow:

HEINTZ, Kurt.
(DOB: 25.07.12 in Neunkirchen/Ottweiler).
10.04.35 entered the Luftwaffe.
06.09.35 trf to LKS Berlin-Gatow.
01.04.36 promo to Fähnrich.
20.04.36 promo to Lt.
15.06.36 attended 2. Seeflieger-Schule in Stralsund (to 30.06.36).
01.10.36 trf to FFS Celle.
01.04.37 to Fliegerschule Neuruppin for operational training.
01.08.37 trf to I./KG 255.
01.09.37 promo to Oblt (with RDA of 01.09.39).
01.09.39 Oblt., in KG 51.
23.02.40 trf to II./KG 51.
15.09.40 appt Staka in III./KG 51.
01.01.41 trf to III./LG 1 as Techn.Offz.
05.08.41 appt Staka 9.(K)/LG 1.
01.11.41 promo to Hptm.
08.12.41 awarded Ehrenpokal.
c.19.12.41 Oblt., appt Staka 9./LG 1 (to 12.41?).
13.06.42 attended 8. Lehrgang für Verbandsführer Ju 88 in Foggia/Italy.
10.07.42 Hptm., awarded DKG, 9./LG 1.
08.42 Hptm., Staka 9./KG 6. 08.42 Hptm., appt Kdr. III./KG 6 (to c. 06.04.43).
17.10.42 Hptm. and former Staka 9./LG 1, awarded the Ritterkreuz on completing over 300 combat missions.
01.43 ordered to Stab/General der Kampfflieger in Berlin for temporary duty.
06.04.43 trf to Erprobungstaffel 410.
18.06.43 appt Staka in III./KG 101.
31.07.43 appt provisional Kdr. V./KG 2.
11.10.43 appt permanent Kdr. V./KG 2.
21/22.01.44 KIA – in Me 410 A-1 shot down by RAF night fighter over Lydd Ranges/Kent.


As I recall, "The Blitz, Then and Now" Volume 3 has some details about the aircraft he died in.

We hope that this helps.

HLdZ
DGS

[Stig Jarlevik]

Guys

I have a problem here. I cannot locate this Me 410, and I don't have Balke's two books about KG 2.

The book The Blitz then and now vol 3 says the WNr was 2338.
Balke says (as per quote below) WNr 103313

I cannot locate WNr 103313 in Petrick/Stocker's book about the Me 210/410, but WNr 2338 is there but with no further details what so ever.

1) Which is the correct WNr?
2) Where does WNr 103313 fit in?

Cheers
Stig

[RT]

English doc of survey on crashed plane gave 2338

Remi

[thenelm]

The WNr. 103313 is bogus - no others from that range appear anywhere.

Me 410A-1, 2338, HEINTZ, Hptm. Kurt, 300+, Stab V., KG 2, , U5+WJ, GF+CR, , 22-Jan-44, Gr.Kdr. Crew KIA due to Luftkampf with nightfighter from 488 Sq. (F/L Luma) during sortie to London., F RK. Both DKiG. WNr. 103313 on 21/22-Jan-44 per Balke., Kanal, Balke, Der Luftkrieg in Europa, II, p.477; The Blitz Then & Now, Vol.3, , Lydd Ranges, Kent, 100%, F, Bf Stfw. Otto Runge, ,

[Stig Jarlevik]

Thanks Guys

Really appreciate your feedback.
Strange that Balke is quoting such an odd number. He usually is right on the spot....

Cheers
Stig