Help with four KG 27 losses - August/Sept.1943

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Good morning to all members.

I do have raw information about 4 losses of KG 27 in August and September 1943, which I would like to obtain more DATA and help, if possible.

They are:

13 August 1943

It seems that Lt. Erich Vogel, from 7./KG 27 collided with another machine, in flight, near the aerodrome of Mirgorod. Vogel was flying on the He 111 H-6 codes 1G+KR (whose werknummer I do not know). I do have all the crews names, but do NOT have Vogel's crew disposition, neither the other machine codes and werknummer and crew disposition (who was FF, Bf, Bs, Beob). It was another 7 Staffeln machine, probably flown by either Fw. Günther or Fw. Pfauch).

18 August 1943

According to a testimony, Uffz Rudolf Viziblo flying a He 111 H-6 from 6./KG 27 was hit, but keep the airplane flying so his crew was able to parachute behind German lines. Sadly the pilot crashed near Eilenowo. Does the CODE, werknummer and other crewmembers are known?

20 August 1943

A machine from 6./KG 27 was shot down by fighters that day. I do have the names of Ogfr. Kurt Budrat; Fw Bruno Daika, Uffz Karl Gebhardt, Uffz Josef Schlamm and Gefr Herbert Schwanke; but DO NOT know their functions on board and neither the machine's codes and werknummer

27 September 1943

Major Kurt Wallbaum, flying the He 111 H-16, codes 1G+AT was shot down. He was from 9./KG 27. I do have the other crew names, but do not know who is the Bf, Beob, Bs, etc....neither the aircraft werknummer. Is that known?

MY GRATITUDE for any kind of help.

Adriano

[Rottler]

Hello Adriano,

the GQM loss returns say:
13.8. 7./KG 27 Feindflug, Ort: Mirgorod, Zusammenstoß in der Luft, Aufschlagbrand He 111 H-6 7830 100%
F Lt Vogel, Erich +
B Obgfr Kaussner, Egon +
Bf Uffz Kaiser, Manfred +
Bm Obgfr Fromm, Heinrich +
Bs Gefr Band, Kurt +

13.8. 7./KG 27 Feindflug, Ort: Mirgorod, Zusammenstoß in der Luft, Aufschlagbrand He 111 H-16 160912 100%
F Fw Pfauch, Alwin +
B Fw Günthner, Heinz +
Bf Uffz Öhm, Marquardt +
Bm Obgfr Sahm, Gerhardt +
Bs Gefdr Kukal, Willi +

18.8. 6./KG 27 Feindflug, Pl.Qu. 4213, Absturz infolge Motorbrand, Aufschlagbrand He 111 H-16 160396 100%
F Uffz Vyziblor, Gerhard verletzt
Bm Obgfr Gubla, Gerhard verletzt
B Hptm Tischl, Matthias verletzt
Bf Uffz Lesch, Emil verletzt

20.8. 6./KG 27 Feindflug, Auftrag: Pl.Qu. 5157, Bordwaffenbeschuß He 111 H-16 161236 100%
F Fw Daika, Bruno unverletzt
B Uffz Schlamm, Josef unverletzt
Bf Obgfr Burdrat, Kurt unverletzt
Bm Gebhardt, Karl unverletzt
Bs Obgfr Schwanke, Herbert unverletzt

27.9. 9./KG 27 Feindflug, Ort: Tiefenbrunn, Flakbeschuß
He 111 H-16 161265 20%
F Maj Wallbaum +
no more crew names

Regards
Leo

[Adriano Baumgartner]

LEO, sent you a PM.

MY DEEPEST GRATITUDE for all your help.

A.

[Jim P.]

Add the following codes in order of Rottler's entries: 1G+KR, 1G+AD, 1G+GP & 1G+FP.

And for the last one:

He 111H-16, 161265, Wallbaum, Major Kurt, , III., 9., KG 27, , 1G+AT, , , 27-Sep-43, KIA due to Flak during sortie to Tiefenbrunn. Bauchlandung by B., , Lfl.4/Eins.Osten, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #11)-Vol.22; Waiss, Boelcke-Archiv, V, p.210, , Tiefenbrunn (PlQu. 58 642), 20%, F, , ,

[Adriano Baumgartner]

Dear Jim P,

Your DATA do complement what Leo and Stig had shared with me. I did not had so far the codes of those machines.

It seems it was a very bad time for KG 27, who lost some 8 machines and crews only in August 1943.

My deepest gratitude for your kind help.

Adriano