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Old 17th December 2010, 21:00
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In his book (Air Commando Fighters of WWII), Edward Young states that on 14th February 1944 two pilots were lost: Captain John Miller (who bailed out to become POW) and Lt Carl Hertzer (MIA).
However, I've not been able to put a hand on a MACR regarding those pilots and R. D. Wagner (Any Place, Any Time, Any Where - Schiffer) makes no mention of these losses.
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Old 17th December 2010, 22:27
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Re: 1st Air Commando

List of John Miller's. Which location, China???
http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/s...ohn&Submit7=Go
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Thanks but none of them apperas to be the Miller I'm looking for.
He was flying a P-51A over Burma.
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Re: 1st Air Commando

Chris,

Here's one of the sites I use to help find tidbits of information which may lead me down the path to success.
http://www.accident-report.com/usaf.html

When I searched for the name Carl Hertzer, nothing comes up.
http://www.accident-report.com/crews...ate_hitch.html
I did find a CARL E HERTZBERGER.

I also use this site for the same tidbits of information.
http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/src/dbaf.htm

The second sites search function for names only works for the pilot, not crew members. Search function information is at the bottom of the page.

I could not find a Carl Hertzer on either website. Perhaps an incorrect name spelling???

I did find reference to an R.D. Wagner on the first site, but not on the second. Maybe he was a crew member?
http://www.accident-report.com/crews...amew_weis.html
On the second site I did find reference to R.D.Wagner in the form of Raymond D. Wagner
http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/s...ond&Submit7=Go

and Richard D. Wagner,
http://www.aviationarchaeology.com/s...ard&Submit7=Go

Again, if R.D. Wagner was a crew member, he will not show up on the second website when doing a search.


Hope this helps. I sure do miss the Archives.

Merry Christmas,
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Re: 1st Air Commando

Chris,

Lt Hertzer should be identified as 1st Lt Carl Hartzer Jr, O-667073, commemorated at the Manila American Cemetery on the Tablets of the Missing.
Unit 1st Air Commando Group. See ABMC.

He's still reported as missing on the DTIC website.

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Chris,

Scroll down on this website to Carl Hartzer and you'll find a snippet of information: http://files.usgwarchives.net/ia/pol...y/polkwwii.txt

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