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Old 13th February 2011, 23:53
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Lt. Elbert R. Carpenter-350th FG

On June 19th,1944 Lt. Elbert R. Carpenter of the 350th FG was shot down over the ocean by what was reported to be a FW-190, There are no Luftwaffe claims for a P-39 on this date. Does anyone know the reason for his demise?
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Old 17th February 2011, 00:51
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Re: Lt. Elbert R. Carpenter-350th FG

Kaki -
In the MACR Data Base www.armyairforces.com There is no
MACR Listed for 350th FG on 6/19/44.
Was He Rescued ? If so - No MACR Filed
Couple thoughts - The 350th FG was transitioning to P-47s about that time.
Could it have been an Italian Fighter ?
Mike
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Old 19th February 2011, 15:40
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Re: Lt. Elbert R. Carpenter-350th FG

Mike,

2nd Lt Elbert Carpenter is still listed as missing. He was from Dickenson County, Virginia. Reportedly lost over the Med.

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Old 19th February 2011, 19:10
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Re: Lt. Elbert R. Carpenter-350th FG

Thanks to all.

It looks like this will be one of the minor mysteries of WWII that will never be answered. He falls into the 15% or so aircrew that never had any MACR generated (my estimate) and with no living witnesses.

One speculation that jumps to mind is "Friendly fire" since a P-39 easily could be mistaken for a Bf-109 by a kill hungry Allied airman. After all, we have the strafing of a RAF strip by the 325th FG,with casulaties, in broad daylight. Truly a vastly undereported incident.
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Old 22nd February 2011, 02:23
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Re: Lt. Elbert R. Carpenter-350th FG

Thanks to a PM, it is now established that the demise was due to friendly fire, a RAF Spitfire.
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