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Ju52's and SM81's lost 13-11-42, one from JG53?
13-11-42
Ju52 of Stab/JG53? with ground crew of 11/JG26? shot down by 227 Sqn Beaufighters. Four Ju52’s and two SM81’s were claimed by 227Sqn, from KGzbV7 and III/KGzbV 1 ? Can anyone confirm these losses and provide more details ? Thank you David |
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Re: Ju52's and SM81's lost 13-11-42, one from JG53?
Found a Ju 52 of KGr.zbv 7 C6+AZ wn 6536 missing this date Ff. Ltn Alfred Voight, B.Ofw.Karl Schafer, Bf. Uffz.Wissmann, BM Ogef Zollner, Bm Ofw.Esser all missing. Unknown cause, possibly on flight between Reggio and Tunis,
Regards Brian Bines |
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Re: Ju52's and SM81's lost 13-11-42, one from JG53?
Thank you Brian
Got the information from Fighters over Tunisia and wanted to update a file. Priens JG53 history does not mention this incident and their is a brief mention in Caldwells JG 26 War Diary. Regards David |
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Re: Ju52's and SM81's lost 13-11-42, one from JG53?
Hi David,
there is information in Jochen`s JFV Part 8/1 about lost of one Ju 52, which was shot down over the M.Sea. The 11/JG26 lost 14 of its ground crews. The date of this accident is placed around 24.11.42. Regards Robert |
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Re: Ju52's and SM81's lost 13-11-42, one from JG53?
Robert
Fighters over Tunisia has the date as the 13-11-42 and Caldwells JG 26 War Diary does not mention this loss until the 15-11-42, so its possible it was reported late. Regards David |
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Re: Ju52's and SM81's lost 13-11-42, one from JG53?
Yes,
but you should remember that 11/JG26 moved on the 24.11 to Tunis. Regards Robert |
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Re: Ju52's and SM81's lost 13-11-42, one from JG53?
Hi Guys
If we look in Fighters over Tunisia on the date 24 Nov, there IS a loss of a single Ju 52 mentioned. This one was in fact full of individuals since the combat report of 272 Sq mentions "ten survivors being seen swimming" Cheers Stig |
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Re: Ju52's and SM81's lost 13-11-42, one from JG53?
Dont know if this one helps 2-12-1942 Ju 52 w.n. 756(5?) KGr.zbv.Frankfurt, unknown cause, Tripoli-Trapani missing. Ff Ltn Heinz Schroder, Bf. Uffz Hans Har, Bm Uffz Konrad Vels, Bs Uffz Sebastian Fischer and further 17 men missing,
Regards Brian Bines |
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Re: Ju52's and SM81's lost 13-11-42, one from JG53?
David,
the book about italian S.A.S. doesn't mention any italian transport losses on 13 november 1942 Gianandrea |
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Re: Ju52's and SM81's lost 13-11-42, one from JG53?
The claim that JG 53 Stab lost a Ju-52 on page 51 of Fighters over Tunisia is puzzling. The JG 53 history (Prien, p. 587 - English language version) states that they lost an He-111 to Beaufighters on 27 November, with the pilot - Obfw Rolf Peitzsch and seven ground personnel on board. No mention of a Ju-52 lost at all.
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