Schlachtflieger

[RT]

In this booklet ,of the collection Luftwaffe colors a Bf109F is shown Blue one, drawing under shows the Wn 7629, so all in order, but the page after the Blue 7 taken from 3/4 rear seems to show the same Wn ...

Any explanation ??? or best looking ...

Rémi

[RT]

,,??

[Andreas Brekken]

Hello, Remi

Are you talking about this booklet:

http://www.amazon.com/Schlachtfliege.../dp/1857802748

In that case I will have a look later on.

Regards,
Andreas B

[ouidjat]

Hello all,

Thanks Rémi to put this question. I have no direct answer except this:

1/ If we can see clearly 7629 on some tail pictures, it is not clear on Blue 1 complete pictures.
2/ It's not clear, too, on the Blue 7 picture you are refering to. Personnaly I don't read 7629.
3/ The Kracker list is giving YELLOW 1 for 7629 and 6469 for Blue 1.
4/ What's the number of 12672 ?? (See picture under)

Last, funny to discover than on Blue 7 picture one mechanical is bolting the rudder and that we have exactly the same action on one 7629 picture; clearly - once again - Liesendahl change the rudder when changing plane.

Regards, Franck.

[ouidjat]

Just more comments on 12672:

We find it in EJGr. West on 8/8/1942 bruch 20% at Fl.Pl. Cazaux. On 3/3/1943 in JGr. Süd, bruch 20% at Fl.Pl. Nimes and on 7/7/1943 in JGr. Süd, Bruch 30% at Fl.Pl. Orange. (as F-4!)

Cheers.

[Jim P.]

I have several machines for Liesendahl. The 'blaue 7' may well be WNr. 12672 (which in my notes I thought may have been an earlier code for WNr. 7629):
Bf 109F-2, 12672, LIESENDAHL, Hptm. Frank, 5, II., 6., JG 2, , , , white rudder w/6 ship strikes: 2nd is solid, 3rd is outline only, , Stkp., RK., Kanal, Nauroth, JG 2, p.138 photo, , , -, F, , ,
Bf 109F-4/B, 7629, LIESENDAHL, Hptm. Frank, 5, , 10.(J), JG 2, blaue, 1 + <-, , white rudder w/6 ship strikes: 2nd is solid, 3rd is outline only, , WNr.7629 was previously coded gelbe '7'., RK., Kanal, Luftwaffe Warbirds Photo Album (Tank Mag. 6.92) p.16-17 photos; Aces of the LW in WW-II, p.27-28 photos; Ries Dora, Kurfürst & Rot 13, Vol.4, p.39 photo; Model Art #371 (June 91), p.37 dwg + photo, Payne, S.A.M. 6/84; Tank Mag.Spl., LW Aces of WW-II, p.27-28 photos; Fighting 109, p.31 photo; Frappe, La LW Attaque A L'Ouest, p.84 photo, , -, F, , ,
Bf 109F-2, 5469?, LIESENDAHL, Hptm. Frank, 5, II., 6., JG 2, , , , gelb rudder with 2 ship strikes, 09-Jun-41, Stkp. Photographed on or after this date., RK., Lfl.3/Kanal, Ries, LW Rudder Markings, p.170 photo, , , -, F, , ,
Bf 109F-2, 6761, LIESENDAHL, Hptm. Frank, , II., 6., JG 2, , , , , 10-Jul-41, Stkp. Injured in Notlandung due to Luftkampf with Spitfires. Hospitalized for 8 weeks., RK., Lfl.3/Kanal, Gen.Qu.6.Abt. (mfm #3)-Vol.5; Prien, et al, Die Jagdfliegerverbände, V, p.443; Goss, LW Fighter Bomber over Britain, p.68, , bei Desvres, 60%, F, , ,

[RT]

It's trully look like 7629 maybe 7628...

Rémi