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Old 8th April 2011, 23:45
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Cockpit photo of a Bf 110 G-4 nightfighter

Hello,

For some reason, cockpit photos of late war Bf 110 G-4 nightfighters seem to be extremely rare. Apart from museum photos, I don't know of any wartime photo.

Does anybody have a wartime cockpit photo of a Bf 110 G-4 or knows in which book one can find one?

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Old 11th April 2011, 10:53
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Re: Cockpit photo of a Bf 110 G-4 nightfighter

Roger,
i remember having posted a series of photos -including photos of the entire cockpit- of a captured Bf 110 G-4 from a BIOS/ CIOS report dated IIRC September 1944. Unfortunaly it went lost with the crash of LEMB when still with ezBoard. So there...
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Old 11th April 2011, 12:10
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Re: Cockpit photo of a Bf 110 G-4 nightfighter

IIRC there were some composite photos in the Monogram Close Up on the Bf 110 G, at least of the radar operator's position.
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Old 11th April 2011, 13:23
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Re: Cockpit photo of a Bf 110 G-4 nightfighter

Just checked that source Nick, nothing for the front cockpit though. I'm sure that George/Felix has a copy of the CIOS/BIOS Report Chris makes mention of above. Is this a report of a Bf110G-4 found on a railway truck by advancing US forces in France? Contrary to comments above, I'm sure I have a back-up of the images or even photocopy of this report somewhere but just can't lay my hands on it... off to have a hunt

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Old 11th April 2011, 13:47
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Re: Cockpit photo of a Bf 110 G-4 nightfighter

Perhaps these are selective scans from the same CIOS/BIOS report?

http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/LEMB/me1.jpg
http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/LEMB/me2.jpg
http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/LEMB/me3.jpg
http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/LEMB/me4.jpg

These are from an old LEMB back-up and were possibly the images originally provided by Chris. So there...

In the meantime, I have the feelers out for a full scan of this CIOS/BIOS report, which from a google search, appears to have been issued on 18th August 1944...

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Old 12th April 2011, 20:54
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Re: Cockpit photo of a Bf 110 G-4 nightfighter

Hi Chris, Nick and Peter,

Thank you very much for your help and links and photos!

I have a copy of Monogram's Close-Up by George G. Hopp in my collection and just checked it. There is indeed a photo of the radio operator's position as well as a photo of Peter Cohausz's original Bf 110 G instrument panel.

I remember this CIOS/BIOS report. I think I once even had an original copy, but have not scanned it before I traded it. As far as I can remember, there was a photo of the main instrument panel, although the quality of the photo was poor and the panel was missing some of its instruments. Peter, Chris do you also have a scan of that photo?

I am looking for a cockpit photo that shows the control stick of a Bf 110 G-4 equipped with MG 17s instead of the MK 108 (like e.g. for the Hendon Bf 110 G-4). The only possibility for such a photo would be a wartime photo (I have checked most of the wartime manuals already, but they sometimes show prototype configurations). But for some odd reason, they seem to be extremely rare considering that there were quite a few Bf 110s around at the end of the war.

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Old 12th April 2011, 21:51
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Re: Cockpit photo of a Bf 110 G-4 nightfighter

As I've mentioned above Roger, this is all I can find thus far with regards photos included in this report. I have subsequently located a page of text from the same report, which can be viewed via the link below:

http://i589.photobucket.com/albums/ss333/LEMB/metx.jpg

Perhaps reproduction of this page will jog somebodies memory and lead to the complete report surfacing. I've dropped George Hopp/Felix an email to see if he has a copy, albeit, I know he's been ill recently, so hope my correspondence to him find him in better health

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Re: Cockpit photo of a Bf 110 G-4 nightfighter

Will this do ?
http://www.cockpitinstrumente.de/Pan...iver/Bf110.htm
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Re: Cockpit photo of a Bf 110 G-4 nightfighter

With thanks to Christian/ChrisMAg2, we are able to provide the complete report, repacked as an easy to read .pdf...

http://tinyurl.com/5w4jnq5

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Very enjoyable, thanks for sharing.
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