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[AbbevilleBoy]

Hello,</SPAN></SPAN>
I seek to identify this plane and his pilot... There is the badge of the JG27, number 6 white or is yellow on the engine cowling ? The camouflage corresponds to the beginning of the war I believe. Perhaps this photo was taken in Belgium or France. A specialist in the JG27 can tell some to me more? Thank you for your help.
Cordially

[ouidjat]

Most probably a 1./JG 1 machine than a JG27...
Pilot is Oblt. Erwin Mann.

[Larry Hickey]

Hello,

This is a 1./JG1 FL.

Franck, I have this photo in my EoE DB, but where did you come up with the info that the pilot was Oblt. Erwin Mann? This info I don't have with the image file.

[ouidjat]

Larry,

I know you have it ...
As for the pilot's name. You're right, I've been too fast: Prien JFV Teil 3, page 74.

Regards, Franck.

[AbbevilleBoy]

Thank you</SPAN>foryouranswer.</SPAN> If I understand well, this plane fell during the Campaign of West, before July 1940 when 1. /JG1 become 7. /JG27.
Frank what say JFV Teil 3 p.74 ?

[ouidjat]

Hello,

JFV T3, P74 says nothing but Prien writes Oblt. Erwin Mann made a Bauchlandung somewhere in (possibily) Belgium/France area because of the antenna shape in the background! (sic) ... Very clever! But no date ... And since the book starts (for JG3) from 10/5 and ends on 25/6 ... it's during this period; at least we can suppose.

Note 1: Prien writes Oblt. Erwin Mann in caption BUT in victory list he writes Lt. Gunter Mann!
Note 2: The photo depicts a plane which, obviously, received hits in fuselage.

Then ...
The Kracker list, is talking about an Oblt. Erwin Gunter Mann of 1./JG1 who made an emergency landing in FRANCE after a dog fight in GELBE 6 (Sic!) in APRIL 1940. All 3./JG1 markings were yellow outlined in black . The machine is White 6, no doubt.

So ...
Some kind of a mixture/confusion.

We can suppose it's effectively Erwin Mann, and that's all. Only the white number and the unit are 100% sure in fact.

Hence Larry's comment!

Regards, Franck.

[AbbevilleBoy]

Hello,</SPAN></SPAN>
Thank you for all these explanations. I have an opinion, but without the formal evidence. In June 5th and 6th, 1940, on the aerial combats on the Somme, the 1. /JG1 is present in the sector.
- 5/6 Uffz Tismer is shot down 2km N. Lamotte-Warfusée (It is not him).
- 6/6 LT Hammerschmidt MIA (Where ?)
But especially, on the photograph, it is the electric pylon in background!!!This high voltage line always exists and the pylons are very recognizable…
But this photograph will remain a mystery, one does not find the solution each time. Thank you for your assistance.
Cordially.
Alain